Psych nurses suspended w/o pay after one pt. rapes another - page 3

Of course it's too soon to tell if they were negligent or not but I don't agree they should have been suspended without pay.... Read More

  1. by   ccmc_rn
    Yes, too sad to even think that we nurses have this kind of fate... that we are made scape goats almost all the time... have they even thought of asking themselves if what they did ( administration ) was the right thing to do for those poor nurses... suspending them beyond reasonable doubt or the investigation is still on going, or hasn't been proven that they were negligent ??? I hope all the nurses involved have good lawyers to defend them, Good luck to the four of them..
  2. by   ccmc_rn
    Bottomline is, we are here to save, give, protect the patients etc. none of these nurses want that to happened... its just one of the many unfortunate cases... I hope they (ADMIN) will be fair in the end & realized that they have been mistaken in their judgement in the first place... Hora nurses!!!
  3. by   FireStarterRN
    Quote from ccmc_rn
    Bottomline is, we are here to save, give, protect the patients etc. none of these nurses want that to happened... its just one of the many unfortunate cases... I hope they (ADMIN) will be fair in the end & realized that they have been mistaken in their judgement in the first place... Hora nurses!!!
    [evil]They might, after being presented with notarized legal documents. [/evil]
  4. by   nfahren05
    Quote from nancykday
    :yeahthat: agree 100%! I'm tired of corporations, which is what all hospitals are in this day and age, shirking their responsibility, and attempting to shift blame onto staff.
    I'm sure that we will be hearing more about this case in the days, weeks, and months to come. The staffing will be the key factor: the clinical staff does have a responsibility for maintaining a safe environment so the nurses can not be totally "excused" here for this incident, but if understaffing contributed in any way, the hospital is going to have to shoulder the blame for its failure to keep patients safe as well. Unfortunately, "security work" is part of the job in psychiatric settings; nurses have the ability and responsibility for restraining and secluding out of control and aggressive patients. Nurses are also responsible for knowing what is happening to patients in their care. And, of course, the hospital is liable for making sure that their staff is able to carry out these responsibilities. I am very concerned that the nurses' counsel did not know this (see link to article in newspaper) when discussing their defense. I agree, however, with the above posters that the hospital should have suspended the nurses with pay while this is being investigated as this is what is commonly done in this, and other, public safety occupations.
  5. by   mesixfuture
    Wow, I feel so sorry for those nurses. That whole "innocent until proven guilty" concept seems to have escaped administration, and even some of the posters on this thread. Shame on you for turning on your own. I have never worked psych, (rounds in nursing school were more than enough) but I can't imagine working nightshift in a psych unit. If their nightshift is anything like ours it's more patients per nurse, and no doctors on the grounds. Fifteen minute rounds on a higher number of patients, and no doctors readily available to give restraint or sedation orders--that's tough!! My heart really goes out to them, and I hope justice is served.
  6. by   lilcajunnurse
    I agree with NancyKday. There are far too many places that cut staff back to the bare minimum where it is unsafe for the patients and staff and when help is asked for; they are often told...oh well, we tried our best. This is a simple case of putting nurses out as scapegoats, because profit is still first instead of patients. Patient falls and medications errors have increased all becuase there are too few nurses trying to take care of too many patients. America needs to wake up and open their eyes so they can see the TRUE American healthcare today, because until they do; it will continue to be the hospitals putting profits ahead of patient saftey or well being!
  7. by   JPOOLRN
    I am an R.N. at a mental health hospital. This is just some more of the Hospital covering themselves!. Our nurses walk around like zombies because we are required to work 4 manditory overtimes a month on top of our scheduled shift. This makes for a dangerous situation. Nurses are tired yet we have to have our eyes everywhere and be able to prevent everything. Being suspended without pay is another injustice . We might as well buy scrubs that have "abuse me" embrodered on the pocket.:angryfire
  8. by   oneLoneNurse
    This brings home the fear we as psych nurses working on a unit, must have every minute.

    Sex is something that does happen. BUT, to have a rape on your unit is another matter. We need to insure staff are doing their jobs; checking the halls and some rooms as often as ordered. Nevertheless, a rape can take place in less than 15 minutes and no one can be with the patient every minute unless there is a 1:1 order written.

    It seems like these nurses are being punished without trial. If this were a higher echelon manager I bet that that person would receive pay while being suspended. Unfortunately for us, we aren't considered important enough to receive pay for this hardship.

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