Pregnant woman removed from life support? - page 5

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    I have not read that this woman is brain dead just that she hasn't "woke up". There are many cases where parents who refuse cancer treatment who are persecuted to force them into giving their child treatments they don't want for the "sake of the child". I recent case is an Amish family who has left the country because the laws is forcing them to go against their beliefs. Amish Girl With Leukemia, Family Flees US to Avoid Chemo

    I have searched and searched in my state for the actual law about life support removal and pregnant women...and I haven't found it yet. So I keep searching.

    I have mixed feelings...while I think the fetus deserves a chance... the pregnancy is so early. This occurred in November when she was only 14 weeks pregnant...a vital time in development. On this case I am torn...but would I really want a child to be born with devastating disabilities that has no quality of life? I'm not sure but I do believe that the family should have the right to choose.

    I have problems every time a law is passed that interferes with freedom of choice, whether that is a flu shot, healthcare, or personal decisions about end of life and a right to die.

    For you students out there this would be a great Ethics paper.
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    Just further proof that Texas, and so many states with similar laws, consider women nothing but walking, talking bags of potting soil for fetuses.
    LittleTwinStars, fetch, BCgradnurse, and 13 others like this.
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    Quote from itzvalerie
    Uh, yes. They decided to have a child. If my child is born with birth defects I will love him/her NO MATTER WHAT.
    Not everyone is like you and not everyone has the same opinion. Most states allow for 2nd trimester abortions because they DO realize that not every person has the financial and emotional capacity to care for a child NO MATTER WHAT, especially if you're talking about a profoundly disabled child.

    I think the husband should be able to do what he and is wife wanted, which was to remove her from life support.
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    Quote from tigerRN2013
    It's so sad to see so many nurses (people who are supposed to advocate for life and people's wellbeing) acting as though a child who is not our definition of 'normal' and healthy is an unworthy burden and undeserving of life or our care. How can people not see that killing a disabled child is wrong?
    I'm pro-choice. I'm also a women's health nurse, which makes it a good thing that I'm pro-choice. We're not talking about killing a disabled CHILD, we're talking about allowing the family the CHOICE to terminate a non-viable pregnancy.
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    Quote from Emergent
    Brain dead people can't really be tortured.
    Well then, lets use brain dead people for vivisection and practicing of medical/surgical skills. That's a fabulous idea.
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    Sad and very tough.i hope the father&the woman's' wish will be granted..although I am pro life but then we"ll never know how severe is the impact to the baby,think about the suffering the father and the baby will go thru.it is not easy to live without a mothers love and compassion.
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    Quote from sapphire18
    It just seems crazy to have such a black and white law about something with so many shades of gray...I mean what if the situation was different- what if the woman was 2 weeks pregnant, what if she wasn't brain dead, and was experiencing significant amounts of pain and suffering (and would never be able to recover any reasonable quality of life)? I mean these are obviously extreme situations, but so many factors go into a medical situation as complex as this one.

    The biggest thing to me is, if you look at this realistically, there is a strong possibility that this baby will be severely brain damaged if it even survives...not to mention a multitude of other possible complications it would have r/t anoxia. This woman was dead- without a pulse, without circulating oxygen, for who knows how long. 14 weeks is nowhere even close to viability...I'm not sure what these politicians, whomever made this law, think they're saving. This sort of thing needs to be decided by doctors, in my opinion- on a case by case basis.
    I agree! I think technology, people afraid of law-suits, and those who feel guilty have to remember we can't replace God/nature, especially when she made her wishes known. I do not agree with the law on this issue!

    Wait until we can clone organs, which researchers are working on.

    The more advanced we get the more complicated it becomes.
    Last edit by jaad on Dec 24, '13
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    Quote from klone
    Well then, lets use brain dead people for vivisection and practicing of medical/surgical skills. That's a fabulous idea.
    We do remove organs from them for donation, actually.
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    Quote from tigerRN2013
    It's so sad to see so many nurses (people who are supposed to advocate for life and people's wellbeing) acting as though a child who is not our definition of 'normal' and healthy is an unworthy burden and undeserving of life or our care. How can people not see that killing a disabled child is wrong?
    If this foetus survived but was so severely brain damaged that it had no gag reflex, would you be willing to adopt the child and take he/she to live in your house? We're not talking about a baby who is not "normal or healthy" but a body that will have to be tube fed, turned, unable to hold the head up, and has none of the qualities that define our personhood. If you wouldn't be willing to hand you life over to caring for this body then you shouldn't feel "sad" because the father doesn't want to either; especially has they already have another child. This is a very different scenario than a child with other challenges.
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    Quote from itzvalerie
    I live in Texas & even if I signed a DNR, if I was pregnant I would want my body to be kept alive until the baby could be born.
    YOU would want that. Make sure your loved ones know that. Just because you would want that doesn't mean this woman would.
    SHGR, BuckyBadgerRN, BCgradnurse, and 4 others like this.


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