Patient revisits hospital--as a bogus ER worker - page 3

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  1. by   anonymurse
    You think she's out of it? Check out these comments following the article:

    by Dee Dee 03/10/07 01:18 PM This goes to show you that the Emergency Personnel are not "God", they just act like it.
    by Gail 03/10/07 01:15 PM Good for her! She was on the "inside" to hear all the mean hateful awful things that ER personnel say about patients. With this proof, she can write the Administration about training their personnel on how to treat people with common decency.
  2. by   buddhak0n
    Quote from sanctuary
    Really lax. Shows what can happen when a place can hire a non-certified, or non-licensed person. If you can let anybody in, eventually "anybody" comes to play. Lets hear it for the State Boards of Nursing!!! By the way, how would an un-trained, uncertified person learn to take vitals??? Why would you hire an untrained person, then expect them to gather critical, baseline information???
    Hilarious as if a reasonably educated person with nothing more than a cuff and a stethoscope who'd witnessed the process several times before couldn't take somebody's blood pressure or temperature....

    Now this stuff shouldn't happen yes but frankly the ability to take modern temperature readings depending on the equipment you're using isn't exactly the same thing as being able to build the Opera Hall of Sydney.

    She should've just said she was a student, she could've hung around for 3 weeks and nobody would've whispered boo.. lol

    Come on now people, YES, absolutely their security system failed in allowing someone to ENTER THE ER without a badge... but the fact that somebody wandered around the ER not knowing what they're doing isn't exactly FRONT page news.. Happens every day.
  3. by   buddhak0n
    Quote from sanctuary
    Really lax. Shows what can happen when a place can hire a non-certified, or non-licensed person. If you can let anybody in, eventually "anybody" comes to play. Lets hear it for the State Boards of Nursing!!! By the way, how would an un-trained, uncertified person learn to take vitals??? Why would you hire an untrained person, then expect them to gather critical, baseline information???
    Jesus you have 43 YEARS EXPERIENCE?

    Oh and by the way who let that untrained untalented unbelievably bad surgeon do my first knee surgery that led to 2 more procedures before it was fixed? Who lets those certified worry worts set up shop in those cubbie holes for 6 hours at a shot and give you a look like "jesus, what in the world could this person want if you hit the buzzer"

    Lol sorry I live at the Jersey Shore and some "nurses" just crack me up with the drama.

    That's not to say that a majority of them are great caring individuals who should be commended for working in a job that is often thankless.... but last couple times I've been in any hospital environment, most nursing stations look more like clubhouses.. Hilarious... the one where my wife gave birth to our first child in Pennsylvania... Heck I must've seen 12 nurses those few days and 9 of them never left the station ... Hey it happens .. not everywhere but it happens...

    Happens at big construction sites too.
  4. by   Havin' A Party!
    This case reminds me of a Seinfeld episode. For an extended time, Kramer shows up and works daily at a business office that's never really hired him.

    One day, the boss calls Kramer into his office and tells him that, after reading Kramer's first report, it appeared to him that Cosmo doesn't have an iota of business knowledge. The boss then announces that, under the circumstances, he's got no other option but to fire him.

    Kramer then looks him straight in the eyes and admits that he isn't even an employee. The boss then quips, "that's what makes this so difficult."
  5. by   sanctuary
    Quote from buddhak0n
    Hilarious as if a reasonably educated person with nothing more than a cuff and a stethoscope who'd witnessed the process several times before couldn't take somebody's blood pressure or temperature....

    Now this stuff shouldn't happen yes but frankly the ability to take modern temperature readings depending on the equipment you're using isn't exactly the same thing as being able to build the Opera Hall of Sydney.

    She should've just said she was a student, she could've hung around for 3 weeks and nobody would've whispered boo.. lol

    Come on now people, YES, absolutely their security system failed in allowing someone to ENTER THE ER without a badge... but the fact that somebody wandered around the ER not knowing what they're doing isn't exactly FRONT page news.. Happens every day.

    Wow, you are obviously an expert in obtaining vital signs.
  6. by   sanctuary
    Quote from buddhak0n
    Jesus you have 43 YEARS EXPERIENCE?"

    [s]Yes, last November? Why is that an issue? [/s]

    Oh and by the way who let that untrained untalented unbelievably bad surgeon do my first knee surgery that led to 2 more procedures before it was fixed? Who lets those certified worry worts set up shop in those cubbie holes for 6 hours at a shot and give you a look like "jesus, what in the world could this person want if you hit the buzzer"

    [s]
    This is very unclear. Who are the certified worry warts (not worts) that you refer to?
    [/s]
    Lol sorry I live at the Jersey Shore and some "nurses" just crack me up with the drama.

    [s]
    Unsure how living at the shores of anyplace would alter your sense of humor.
    [/s]
    That's not to say that a majority of them are great caring individuals who should be commended for working in a job that is often thankless.... but last couple times I've been in any hospital environment, most nursing stations look more like clubhouses.. Hilarious... the one where my wife gave birth to our first child in Pennsylvania... Heck I must've seen 12 nurses those few days and 9 of them never left the station ... Hey it happens .. not everywhere but it happens...

    Happens at big construction sites too.
    [s]
    I trust that you are more familiar with construction sites.
    [/s]
    Last edit by sanctuary on Mar 31, '07
  7. by   jsteine1
    title: "An unseasonably warm Thanksgiving"
  8. by   DusktilDawn
    Quote from buddhak0n
    Hilarious as if a reasonably educated person with nothing more than a cuff and a stethoscope who'd witnessed the process several times before couldn't take somebody's blood pressure or temperature....
    Really, just WATCHING someone taking a BP several times is all one needs to know how to do one? Ever HEARD of Korotkoff sounds? Simply watching one perform a BP reading doesn't impart the knowledge of what these sounds are nor their significance.

    Now this stuff shouldn't happen yes but frankly the ability to take modern temperature readings depending on the equipment you're using isn't exactly the same thing as being able to build the Opera Hall of Sydney.
    READING the display on thermometers is quite simple, but does the average person know what can make that reading inaccurate? With an oral temp do most lay people KNOW exactly where under the tongue they want that probe to be to ensure an accurate reading? Does the average person know which site reflects the most accurrate core temperature reading, or do they even know what a core temperaure is or it's significance. Does the average person know the different patterns of a fever (sustained, intermittent, remittent, relapsing)? Do you know what else may be assessed when when the patient is asked to open their mouth to receive the probe and what that assessment can indicate to a health professional? Certainly I wouldn't compare taking a temp to be on the same scale as building the Opera Hall of Sydney, but hey, I don't think architecture and medicine are comparable.

    She should've just said she was a student, she could've hung around for 3 weeks and nobody would've whispered boo.. lol

    Come on now people, YES, absolutely their security system failed in allowing someone to ENTER THE ER without a badge... but the fact that somebody wandered around the ER not knowing what they're doing isn't exactly FRONT page news.. Happens every day
    Are you being facetious, implying that there are plently of ER staff that wander the ER not knowing what they are doing? I guess a prenursing student or any average Joe KNOWS more about what the ER staff should be doing than the staff themselves who have a knowledge based practice.

    The fact that someone was interacting with patients as a PCT DOESN'T happen everyday. This incident speaks not just of a lack in security, but also serious issues regarding staffing.
    Lol sorry I live at the Jersey Shore and some "nurses" just crack me up with the drama.

    That's not to say that a majority of them are great caring individuals who should be commended for working in a job that is often thankless.... but last couple times I've been in any hospital environment, most nursing stations look more like clubhouses.. Hilarious... the one where my wife gave birth to our first child in Pennsylvania... Heck I must've seen 12 nurses those few days and 9 of them never left the station ... Hey it happens .. not everywhere but it happens...
    Any idea of what the all people AT the nursing station were, or what a misnomer the words "nursing station" are? You're positive 9 nurses NEVER left the station and your positive all 9 were nurses? As a nurse, I've not been able to access the nurses stations because everyone and their uncle is there, from PT, OT, residents, dieticians, transporters, nurse associates, NAs, clerks, etc have taken over. Not everyone in the hospital is a nurse, nor is everyone that may be at the nurse's station one either.
    Last edit by DusktilDawn on Apr 9, '07
  9. by   sanctuary
    Good on you, DusktilDawn. Well and truly said.
  10. by   twotrees2
    Quote from bluehair
    patient revisits hospital--as a bogus er worker
    st. petersburg times http://www.sptimes.com/2007/03/08/hi...its_st_j.shtml
    we had a nurse tech my old place fired for stealing narc patches ( couldnt prove it specifically as never caughther with them but they never did blood test either ) anyhow- found out she turned up at a nother towns nursing home dressed in scrubs - didnt know the residents just who had em and picked the wrong one ( alert and oriented) and was busted by the cops - its amazing what folks will do -
  11. by   sanctuary
    What is a nurse tech???

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