Owner of Home Health Kills 3 and commits suicide

  1. 1 Just read the the Owner of AK Home Health in St. Louis, MO killed 3 employees and himself today because of some type of argument. Bizarre!

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...0,452969.story
    Last edit by TheCommuter on Jun 13, '13 : Reason: added link to news story
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  3. Visit  Isabelle49 profile page
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    Holy Moly! The owner of AK Home Health of St. Louis Missouri, killed 3 employees and himself over some type of argument! Wow!
  4. Visit  TheCommuter profile page
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    Threads merged and moved to the Nursing News forum.

    My thoughts and well-wishes are with the families of the deceased home health employees. What a senseless tragedy for all involved.
  5. Visit  NutmeggeRN profile page
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    How sad.....
  6. Visit  julius.alle profile page
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    I saw something about that on yahoo news yesterday, The psych of a person bent on mass murder and then suicide is a very complexed and dark one. It's so easy for us to call these people monsters and cowards for not just taking their own life, but these people are sick and lash out when things become to stressful, I'm talking normal everyday stressors can trigger these types of people. I just hope that our mental health system in the US takes the steps to meet this demand and catch these people before they have the opportunity to do these things.
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  7. Visit  LadyFree28 profile page
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    Well said, julius.
  8. Visit  wish_me_luck profile page
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    I didn't see the article that mentioned the home health owner was mentally ill or had any mental health condition...can you post the link to that one?
  9. Visit  Sadala profile page
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    Quote from julius.alle
    I saw something about that on yahoo news yesterday, The psych of a person bent on mass murder and then suicide is a very complexed and dark one. It's so easy for us to call these people monsters and cowards for not just taking their own life, but these people are sick and lash out when things become to stressful, I'm talking normal everyday stressors can trigger these types of people. I just hope that our mental health system in the US takes the steps to meet this demand and catch these people before they have the opportunity to do these things.
    I don't find anything that gives info indicating this. All indications so far are that this guy became angry over an argument and then blew everyone in the argument away. Sounded like more of a sudden decision until I hear differently.
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  10. Visit  LadyFree28 profile page
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    No, the article didn't say that, however, there are cases when people are not coping well may have some form of a mental health crisis...how upset can one be and have homicidal and/or suicidal thoughts??? Well...
  11. Visit  dishes profile page
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    We don't really understand why people commit murder/suicide, but rationalizing that they must all have some form of mental illness is stereotyping.
  12. Visit  LadyFree28 profile page
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    I don't see where anyone was stereotyping...mental health crisis DOES NOT EQUATE to mental illness.

    If anything, a conversation about assessing our emotional and/or mental status should take place PRIOR to being elderly, hopeless, or when situations like this take place, whether it be on a smaller scale, which barely make the news, or on a larger scale in the extremes, which stick in our minds.
  13. Visit  wish_me_luck profile page
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    Lady, go back and re read Julius' comment, they did not say crisis...they said these people are sick and anything will set them off. That did not scream normal person having a crisis due to situation, that screams an assumption of mental illness. I have not read anything that the owner had a mental illness.

    I think people want to try and categorize people to feel safe...truth is, most people with a diagnosed mental illness are treated and a lot of times they are being monitored by some agency, whether it be a court agency or something like HPMP for people who are healthcare providers or the DMV, if they drive. "Normal" people are not considered part of the mentally ill, even if they have signs and symptoms because they do not have a diagnosis. When I speak of the mentally ill, I mean someone with a bonafide diagnosis. I personally prefer knowing what I am getting being around a person with a mental illness than take my chances with a "normal" person who may or may not have dark thoughts that are worse than the mentally ill person.
  14. Visit  LadyFree28 profile page
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    I read it when I posted my comment, and STILL didn't interpret that as stereotypical... is it because it said "these people"????

    I've decided not to read into that. The poster could've meant people who perform such acts as the person did in St. Louis, Newtown, or in Colorado, or many instances of gun violence...I decided to not make an assumption on what he said. Since I decided to focus on the fact that the most pressing issue, to me, is lowering the stigma in regards to being mentally healthy, I did not see it as a rationalization or a stereotype.

    Or better yet, ask the poster to clarify the "these people comment"...In my experience, I am all aware of how "these people" comment can be used to mask stereotypes, even this comment has been used in my presence, against myself, plenty of times in my lifetime.

    I may be looking at this with much more objectivity, but it I still stand by my comment, and better yet, my point that there needs to be an honest conversation about how we deal with ourselves holistically, especially in terms of mental health. And I'm speaking as someone who has a history of a chronic mental health trait and condition.


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