Out-of-work Nurses Hoping For Increased Demand - page 3

By Shellie Branco, Valley Public Radio Correspondent Three months ago, Stefania Tutino-Eslow graduated from the registered nursing program at Fresno City College, and she's still looking for a... Read More

  1. Visit  ladibelle profile page
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    I just heard from a freind who is older but quite fit. She has been a nurse for 28 years. She is unemployed. She said she felt suicidal. She has been fired from a job for learning too slowly. There were several nurses before her who had been fired freom this DR's office for varoius reasons. She was working 12 hours with no lunch breaks and almost collapsed. She told them it was illegal and they said "we have work to do". It doesn't matter if she reports them for this, it won't get her a job. It might also get her black listed. I have worked under those conditions before too we should all go into business for ourselves. Anyone have any ideas?
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  3. Visit  eriksoln profile page
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    Quote from Esme12
    HOW TRUE!!!!!!! We argue because we know what is right andwhat is wrong and no we can't be manipulated or bullied into believe some of the half baked ideas that come form some of those in charge........They know we know they are falling short of the mark.......we can't be duped! and that makes them uncomfortable.......boo hoo
    That I can see, and I have only been nursing 4 years.

    I interviewed for a brand new hospital a couple years ago, when I ended up accepting the position I am in now. The very second I stepped into the manager's office I new I was not taking the job.

    HUGE mess in the office. Tons of post its, I never figured out what the original color of the room was because of them all. Right away, one of my biggest red flags of a unit in trouble came up. This manager was in charge of more than one unit. That alone was bad enough, but the unit I was interviewing for was obviously the 2nd unit, meaning we were the one forced on her.

    I could just tell from listening to her talk that she was new to managing. Very new. She LOVED hearing herself talk about how she was going to implement this and that new idea.

    The wonderful idea she was forcing on her nurses that was going to save the world:

    The nurses would transport their pt's from the ER to the unit. Leave the unit, fill out a few forms in the ER to show when you actually took over their care and..........be the transport.

    I know for a fact my disbelief that she was even considering this showed on my face. She quickly changed the subject. The ratios we would have been handed (I was going to work mixed days/evenings) were 6-8 pt's. So, I would have been walking off the unit, leaving 5, 6, maybe 7 other patients alone for half an hour...........to save the hospital the cost of a transport.

    I didn't take the job. From what I understand about that hospital now..............the vast majority of their nurse force has less than two years experience. One girl who ended up on the unit I would have been on has just over two years experience and is night charge nurse every shift.
  4. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Quote from eriksoln
    I have something to ask that may ruffle some feathers but............I'm curious and......well, if you know me, you know.....I just wouldn't know what to do with myself if someone weren't mad at me (ya know).

    Do the nurses claiming they are not being hired R/T age really truly think that is possible? I have to say, I don't. There are people in their late 50's where I am working and management ADORES them. I realize thats just my experience in my little corner of the world, but here is my problem:

    On one thread, you have you guys claiming you are not being hired R/T age. OK, fine. In numerous other threads throughout this site.............are 20 and 21 year old grads who have not even had an interview. TONS of grads are not finding work.


    I'm just having trouble swallowing the whole "ageism" concept. People of all ages are up against the wall.

    No offense but easy for you to say............you're 37. I had a job at 49, I got laid off due to budgetary constraints and replaced with nurses half my age. It's the finding of a new job that I am having problems with. I am not being hired because of the assumptiom I cost more and 99% of the time I do.........Why not? I have been doing this for 31 years. The new grads are not being hired because it is costly to train them and bring them up to speed so hospitals only hire a few at a time.

    It is an "ageism" concept..........you are not being hired because you are to young and expensive to train or too old and expensive to keep.........funny though, I offered to take a 10.00 an hour pay cut to keep my position as night sup of a small local hospital...............funny, no takers and the other sup my age and the one older..........they got pink slipped too...........now the average age in that position is no longer 53 it's 34......
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  5. Visit  ladibelle profile page
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    I hear that welders, electricians and plumbers are in short supply. LOL
  6. Visit  eriksoln profile page
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    Quote from Esme12
    No offense but easy for you to say............you're 37. I had a job at 49, I got laid off due to budgetary constraints and replaced with nurses half my age. It's the finding of a new job that I am having problems with. I am not being hired because of the assumptiom I cost more and 99% of the time I do.........Why not? I have been doing this for 31 years. The new grads are not being hired because it is costly to train them and bring them up to speed so hospitals only hire a few at a time.

    It is an "ageism" concept..........you are not being hired because you are to young and expensive to train or too old and expensive to keep.........funny though, I offered to take a 10.00 an hour pay cut to keep my position as night sup of a small local hospital...............funny, no takers and the other sup my age and the one older..........they got pink slipped too...........now the average age in that position is no longer 53 it's 34......
    Because the job market isn't the same. I'm making less now than I did during my first two years of nursing. And, that is after two years of travel nursing. I have OCEANS more to contribute now than during my first two years, but it didn't help me. I wasn't shafted out of having a position completely, but I was brought in when the economy was well in the tank. I had to accept just barely above what first year nurse's who recently passed their boards make.

    I believe nursing is becoming tribal also, just as landscaping was when I did it. In landscaping, I can have ten years experience with my company as a supervisor. Once I leave them though, no one gives that any weight. Each company has such different ways of doing things, they see experience with another company as meaning you have a lot of habits they may have to break you of. If you jump from company A to company B in landscaping, you better have a good reason, cause you will be a laborer for the first couple years no matter how much you resemble Superman.
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  7. Visit  Selinahmn profile page
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    Wow this makes me rethink again the decision I had of changing careers from It to nursing. I am in a fix. I obtained my Computer Information Systems degree about 7yrs ago and I have been going from one job to another. I really do not have much experience that is my problem and I have wanted to nursing for a long time and I am looking into going back to school and obtain a BSN. But after reading this article and all the responses, I am not sure which way to go. I am 32 so maybe the age issue might catch up with me before I even start.
  8. Visit  MayMay08 profile page
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    It is sad. Im a pre-nusring student & I have two older sisters that passed their State Board Exam last year. They are still looking but no such luck. It's sad to see my sisters depressed and even one is starting to give up. IDK what to do, I wish I could help; I can only encourage & pray for them.
  9. Visit  Jershar profile page
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    I've been looking since Oct2009 can't even get an interview for any acute care positions.
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    Breaks my heart that not just my sisters are struggling, alot of other nurses are too. One of my sister's age is 23 and the other 28. I have sister-in-law that's working and doing very well for her and her family. But she was employed 8 years ago and at that time, she told me all she had to do was to write WRITE AN ESSAY to get hired!
  11. Visit  ♪♫ in my ♥ profile page
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    Quote from eriksoln
    Do the nurses claiming they are not being hired R/T age really truly think that is possible?
    I know for sure that it happened in my engineering career - I sat in on hiring meetings where it was blatant.

    My belief is that the new-grad nurses that people are looking for are the early-30's who've been successful in something else. I believe that the experienced nurses they're looking for are late-30's, early 40's.

    While there are exceptions, of course, I strongly believe that age discrimination is real - and that the data probably back me up.
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    Quote from ♪♫ in my ♥
    I know for sure that it happened in my engineering career - I sat in on hiring meetings where it was blatant.

    My belief is that the new-grad nurses that people are looking for are the early-30's who've been successful in something else. I believe that the experienced nurses they're looking for are late-30's, early 40's.

    While there are exceptions, of course, I strongly believe that age discrimination is real - and that the data probably back me up.
    Then..........I am sad for everyone with this going on in their life. Its not just.

    I just had a hard time swallowing it with new grads suffering too.

    These things make me depressed. Shelter, food and reasonable transportation are becoming something only the privileged can count on. Shouldn't be that way. To me, being an American used to mean if you were willing to do your part, you could make it. I don't believe that anymore.
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  13. Visit  ladibelle profile page
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    I looked at all the nuring licences that had been reported to the state BON. This year in VT; 4 of them had worked for the VNA. They had been reported for being behind in their paperwork or phone calls. There were the usual nurses with drug and alcohol problems. The bulk of the nurses were from nursing homes, many of them made small med errors ( one had worked 70 hours) It seems that it is quite easy to lose your liscence or gets marks on it . I don't like the way things are going
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    Quote from Esme12
    I don't know about Diane but I have been a nurse for 31 years.............Since I was 18 years old this is the only thing I have ever done, the only thing I have ever wanted to do, the only thing I know how to do.......

    I have looked at other areas in nursing from office nursing to phone triage. Let's see phone triage "We are seeking someone with more experience in this area" or my favourite office nurse "Your qualifications are excellent but we are looking for someone who's qualifications are better suited to this position" Oh! Oh! Let's not forget " Your bedside experience is a little distant.........we are looking for someone with a little more current bedside experience". and from a SNF " you know you are over qualified for this position........"
    ARE YOU KIDDING ME???????? I just want a job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    NEVER in my wildest dreams thought the nursing profession I have spent a lifetime with..........working holidays, weekends,24/7 and driven in blizzards for because if I didn't get there someone couldn't go home, abandon me because I am old and I am too expensive to keep around. I and my family have relied on my nursing salary I make (scratch that one made) great money......back up plan? I didn't think I'd need one.......I mean .......there will always be a need for nurses.....right?

    Oh well, this too shall pass. I still have some unemployment left and Who knows maybe they will vote in a tier 5. I am taking a billing/coding class right now because once unemployment runs out.....something is better than nothing.... right? I am also applying to local schools to be a sub.......pay stinks but something is better than nothing......right? None of these jobs will pay anything close to what I made as a nurse but it will hold off the wolves at the back door until thigns turn around.

    It's just really,really,really sad that what I spent a lifetime perfecting and devoted to isn't there for me ........


    I truly am sorry to hear that. Really, my heart felt your pain. A lifetime spent devoting to helping others is what I have chosen to do as well. I just got accepted at the LBCC program, and I really hope that things get better for all of us. Good luck! :heartbeat
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