Out-of-work Nurses Hoping For Increased Demand - page 2

By Shellie Branco, Valley Public Radio Correspondent Three months ago, Stefania Tutino-Eslow graduated from the registered nursing program at Fresno City College, and she's still looking for a... Read More

  1. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Quote from OldnurseRN
    I think we all know that there is a hidden agenda and it's called age discrimination. Employers are very good at hiding this. Out with the seasoned, experienced staff and in with the new because it's cheaper.


    I have been looking for 18 months . I am growing more pessimistic by the day. Let's face it they can hire 2 less experienced staff for the price of one experienced nurse.
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    Quote from Esme12
    I have been looking for 18 months . I am growing more pessimistic by the day. Let's face it they can hire 2 less experienced staff for the price of one experienced nurse.
    I am 59 y.o., 28 yrs. Med/Surg ,out of a job for 1 month. I am scared,too.
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  3. Visit  CrunchRN profile page
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    It truly does suck. I have my fingers crossed for y'all.
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    Quote from Esme12
    I have been looking for 18 months . I am growing more pessimistic by the day. Let's face it they can hire 2 less experienced staff for the price of one experienced nurse.
    I'm afraid that it's much more insidious - and much more chauvinistic - than that.

    They certainly can offer the experienced nurse the same rate as the less experienced one... and probably get a number of takers. There's nothing that says that they have to pay an experienced person more.

    Instead, I think it's simply a bias against older folks... a perception that they're less energetic, more likely to be sick/injured, set in their ways...

    Our culture is very, very biased against the aged (beginning about age 40 or so).
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  5. Visit  nurse_2b? profile page
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    Quote from diane227
    You are right. I resigned from my job two months ago and have found nothing yet. I have applications everywhere. I have been a nurse for 32 years with experience in psych, emergency, med surg and management and I was told by one hospital, without benefit of an interview, that I was not qualified for anything. I have never had trouble finding a job. I have one friend here in the Seattle area who has been out of work for 2 years. My sister in law, who is a neonatal NP here at Swedish Hospital said they had 120 applicants for two positions in the newborn nursery. I thought I would work until I was 70 (I am 55 now) but I tell you that I have been away from the hospital now for two months and the thought of walking back into a hospital makes me have a panic attack. I am looking for jobs outside the health care field and although they pay a lot less, I might be happier.
    Hi Diane,
    I was reading everyone's post regarding shortage of job. I'm sorry to hear that you are having such difficult time after soooo many years of experience in nursing.
    I started my nursing journey 2 years ago when I decided to go back to school...even though I have my mind set on it, I also have a great back up plan so I don't have to rely solely on my nursing's income.

    What other fields are you looking at? If you don't ming sharing. I would love to hear what else would interest a nurse with soooo much experience as you have.

    Regards,

    Luciana
  6. Visit  ladibelle profile page
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    I am a RN with 18 years of experience, when I went to a job inteview today. The interviewer said I know you have the experience, what are your salary requirements? Tha was her only question during the whole interview. I t made me think that they were looking for the nurse with the most expereince that they coud hire cheaply
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  7. Visit  Punch profile page
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    I just graduated in May 2010, took a month off and then began looking for a job. I figured since I already worked in my local hospital, it would be fairly easy to find a job there. I have had several interviews for positions as an RN, but no takers! I felt I interviewed well, I have NEVER had a problem securing a job I wanted, but again, no takers! Other than being new to the field with no experience, I could only think that my age was what was holding me back! I am 58. After a few rejections, many tears,and a big slap to my self-esteem, I finally threw in the towel and decided to go into LTC. I have recently been offered a position and am thankful for it! I feel there is much I can contribute to the elderly and look forward to getting my feet wet in this profession!
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  8. Visit  eriksoln profile page
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    I have something to ask that may ruffle some feathers but............I'm curious and......well, if you know me, you know.....I just wouldn't know what to do with myself if someone weren't mad at me (ya know).

    Do the nurses claiming they are not being hired R/T age really truly think that is possible? I have to say, I don't. There are people in their late 50's where I am working and management ADORES them. I realize thats just my experience in my little corner of the world, but here is my problem:

    On one thread, you have you guys claiming you are not being hired R/T age. OK, fine. In numerous other threads throughout this site.............are 20 and 21 year old grads who have not even had an interview. TONS of grads are not finding work.


    I'm just having trouble swallowing the whole "ageism" concept. People of all ages are up against the wall.
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  9. Visit  ladibelle profile page
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    Dear Eriksoln,
    I am seeing that the age of the women depends on the facilty and the image management has of it's staff. The place I interviewed had all younger women. It serviced the upper crust of the wealthier people in the community. Assisted living. It was quite opulent. When a DON's only question to me in an interview is how much money do I want to be paid, I have to think that cost effectiveness and image are the issues at hand .
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    Quote from ladibelle
    Dear Eriksoln,
    I am seeing that the age of the women depends on the facilty and the image management has of it's staff. The place I interviewed had all younger women. It serviced the upper crust of the wealthier people in the community. Assisted living. It was quite opulent. When a DON's only question to me in an interview is how much money do I want to be paid, I have to think that cost effectiveness and image are the issues at hand .

    See, what you said in a post before..........that they want as much experience as possible for a cheaper price, now that is definitely making sense to me.

    See, if a manager is able to get 18 yrs experience at the price of........a recent grad, well, if I were a manager I would not pass that up. I'd assume too that the second things got better and a few jobs opened you'd be out the door too but, I'd have you at the cheap for until then. I would not put this past hospital admin.

    I'm actually working for 35 cents less than what I made during my first two years as a nurse. I worked two years M/S, travel nursed for two years, then when the economy tanked, went staff. When I decided to become staff again, the picking were slim. I accepted a position on a unit that gave me the challenge I desired, but was by no means thrilled with the hourly wage. Those are the times I guess.

    Another poster said something to the effect of "Those managers would be surprised that we would accept the wage they are giving the younger nurses."

    If thats the case, you are not asking for anything more than the younger nurses are making...........then yes, I too see ageism.
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  11. Visit  TheCommuter profile page
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    Quote from eriksoln
    IDo the nurses claiming they are not being hired R/T age really truly think that is possible?
    Even though I am in my late-twenties, I know that age discrimination occurs in the employment market. I know this for a fact. Not all hiring managers practice it, but enough of them do.

    My former assistant DON, a lady in her early forties, confided in me one day. I asked her, "Why don't you guys like older nurses?" She bluntly replied, "Older nurses tend to be argumentative, set in their ways, and unreceptive to feedback. We love working with younger nurses because they're more flexible and receptive."
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    Quote from nurse_2b?
    Hi Diane,
    I was reading everyone's post regarding shortage of job. I'm sorry to hear that you are having such difficult time after soooo many years of experience in nursing.
    I started my nursing journey 2 years ago when I decided to go back to school...even though I have my mind set on it, I also have a great back up plan so I don't have to rely solely on my nursing's income.

    What other fields are you looking at? If you don't ming sharing. I would love to hear what else would interest a nurse with soooo much experience as you have.

    Regards,

    Luciana
    I don't know about Diane but I have been a nurse for 31 years.............Since I was 18 years old this is the only thing I have ever done, the only thing I have ever wanted to do, the only thing I know how to do.......

    I have looked at other areas in nursing from office nursing to phone triage. Let's see phone triage "We are seeking someone with more experience in this area" or my favourite office nurse "Your qualifications are excellent but we are looking for someone who's qualifications are better suited to this position" Oh! Oh! Let's not forget " Your bedside experience is a little distant.........we are looking for someone with a little more current bedside experience". and from a SNF " you know you are over qualified for this position........"
    ARE YOU KIDDING ME???????? I just want a job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    NEVER in my wildest dreams thought the nursing profession I have spent a lifetime with..........working holidays, weekends,24/7 and driven in blizzards for because if I didn't get there someone couldn't go home, abandon me because I am old and I am too expensive to keep around. I and my family have relied on my nursing salary I make (scratch that one made) great money......back up plan? I didn't think I'd need one.......I mean .......there will always be a need for nurses.....right?

    Oh well, this too shall pass. I still have some unemployment left and Who knows maybe they will vote in a tier 5. I am taking a billing/coding class right now because once unemployment runs out.....something is better than nothing.... right? I am also applying to local schools to be a sub.......pay stinks but something is better than nothing......right? None of these jobs will pay anything close to what I made as a nurse but it will hold off the wolves at the back door until thigns turn around.

    It's just really,really,really sad that what I spent a lifetime perfecting and devoted to isn't there for me ........
    Last edit by Esme12 on Aug 26, '10
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  13. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Quote from TheCommuter
    Even though I am in my late-twenties, I know that age discrimination occurs in the employment market. I know this for a fact. Not all hiring managers practice it, but enough of them do.

    My former assistant DON, a lady in her early forties, confided in me one day. I asked her, "Why don't you guys like older nurses?" She bluntly replied, "Older nurses tend to be argumentative, set in their ways, and unreceptive to feedback. We love working with younger nurses because they're more flexible and receptive."


    HOW TRUE!!!!!!! We argue because we know what is right andwhat is wrong and no we can't be manipulated or bullied into believe some of the half baked ideas that come form some of those in charge........They know we know they are falling short of the mark.......we can't be duped! and that makes them uncomfortable.......boo hoo
    Last edit by Esme12 on Aug 26, '10
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