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Oct 29, 2009, 07:17 PM
 Re: Only hiring new grads that are "cream of the crop"?
You know what if your in ANY nursing school you are required to carrie a B to B+ average, and pass some VERY scary test....work you hiney off and then take the holy grail of all tests. It requires dedication, sweat and blood! We ALL work hard, and just because we decide we do not want to go back to school and are happy with our situation, well thats a personal choice, but it does not effect our over all ability to care for our patients. Now this said some specialties require more education, and it's perfectly acceptable to chose the best. It's the way of the economy now, they have the option of taking their choice! It will change, hang in there!
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Oct 29, 2009, 07:17 PM
Re: Only hiring new grads that are "cream of the crop"? Originally Posted by oldiebutgoodie  Have any of you who can't find jobs considered the military? Obviously, this isn't the path for someone with a family and roots, but if you are a new grad with a BSN, the armed forces would probably like to talk to you.
You can go in the service as a 2nd lieutenant (with a BSN). Depending on the branch of the service, you may or may not be deployed. It's worth discussing with a recruiter if you don't have anything keeping you at home, and want some adventure.
Oldiebutgoodie
Proud Mom of an Air Force medic
Yep, even with a family.
Too bad, so sad... too old.
I'm too old for some, and too inexperienced for others... despite two decades of proving myself to be a professional - salaried, even - who goes way above and beyond for the company and for the customers. I've worked months and months of 60-hr weeks while only getting paid for 40... doesn't commitment and dedication count for something?
Mostly what I am, I'm afraid, is completely and totally forked.
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Oct 29, 2009, 07:21 PM
Re: Only hiring new grads that are "cream of the crop"? Originally Posted by UtRN2u then take the holy grail of all tests.
As licensing exams go, the NCLEX is very short, very easy, and with a very high pass rate.
The "holy grail" is the USMLE series, followed by some of the state Bar exams, CPA exams, and the PE exam.
The NCLEX is stressful but let's not pretend that it's something that it's not.
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Oct 29, 2009, 07:34 PM
Re: Only hiring new grads that are "cream of the crop"?
I am a second career person too. I have a BA, ran my own business, worked for several years as an exec in a Fortune 500 company, have numerous nursing certs, including trauma, have done 150+ apps and had 1 interview. I was told by the recruiter that 3 years as LPN in sub-acute really doesn't count, and my former career and previous education does not count either. This was for a rehab nursing job, part-time at that. I have sent resumes, done follow-ups, received not one return call or email. I am so discouraged.
Tristan, like you, I am trying not to beat myself for making the decision to pursue nursing. But reality is, I am out of money, have to get some type of work, and it likely won't be in nursing. Too bad, I am a good nurse, lifelong learner, and love the work. But I have to pay the mortgage, feed the teenager, etc.
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Oct 29, 2009, 07:45 PM
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Oct 29, 2009 at 07:47 PM by UtRN2u
Re: Only hiring new grads that are "cream of the crop"? Originally Posted by ♪♫ in my ♥ As licensing exams go, the NCLEX is very short, very easy, and with a very high pass rate.
The "holy grail" is the USMLE series, followed by some of the state Bar exams, CPA exams, and the PE exam.
The NCLEX is stressful but let's not pretend that it's something that it's not.
I totally disagree with you on that, I worked my &^% off for that test! I sweated and cried, and all of that. Don't try to diminish the sucess that those of us who are nurses experienced when we took it! For heavens sake just because there are other difficult tests doesn't mean that the NCLEX wasn't to some of us the holy grail....besides it was a euphamism, not literal.
Not to mention the fact that just because it has a high pass rate doesn't mean that nurses don't spend an unbelievable amount of time and effort on it! It just goes to show the dedication of the people who take it!
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Oct 29, 2009, 08:13 PM
Re: Only hiring new grads that are "cream of the crop"? Originally Posted by UtRN2u I totally disagree with you on that, I worked my &^% off for that test! I sweated and cried, and all of that. Don't try to diminish the sucess that those of us who are nurses experienced when we took it! For heavens sake just because there are other difficult tests doesn't mean that the NCLEX wasn't to some of us the holy grail....besides it was a euphamism, not literal.
Not to mention the fact that just because it has a high pass rate doesn't mean that nurses don't spend an unbelievable amount of time and effort on it! It just goes to show the dedication of the people who take it!
Edited to say:
And there I go taking yet another thread off topic {shaking finger at myself}.
Sorry to have ruffled your feathers.
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Oct 29, 2009, 09:05 PM
Re: Only hiring new grads that are "cream of the crop"?
nursing eat their young( has always been) and "older"( this is a new trend). As I flip through this thread, I'm seeing employers(hospitals) offering or suggesting to hire new grads for FREE?? calling it employment!! in exchange for them to go on for higher degrees??? with no experience!! Maybe it's my baby boomer dementia setting in. but what's wrong with this picture?? If any nurse or group of nurses start working for free, where does that leave the rest of us who have bills to pay- remember some of us are "older" nurses we can't move in with mom and dad, the electric company doesn't GIVE us electicity, mortgage companies don't offer LOAN FORGIVENESS, the do the other F word- foreclose. Least we not forget what those "older" nurses back in our younger, new grad days did for the profession-no we were not especially fond of alot of them - grouchy irritable, bad attitudes, devoured us like their was no tomorrow, but they did have the moxey and mouth to get nursing wages up out of the minimum wage ($1.85/hr) range and introduced staffing ratios- alot of the practice priviledges we enjoy today-autonomy(such as it is,) and critical thinking/credit for brains. by these young grads willing to work for FREE in exchange- will set us back 20 years- are the CEO"s getting offered to work for FREE (NOTTA). They should be having their salaries cut- IN HALF, now we're talking about saving some hospital/healthcare money!! How many nurses could 1 hospital employ with it's CEO cutting his/her salary in half??? ( cut their salary in 1/2 =$150,000- $200,000 or more!! How many nurses could that employ in 1 hospital?? I estimate about 2-3 experienced nurses atleast or 3-4 new grads.!! WOULDN"T that help the patient load some?? I wish some one would pay me $300-$400 thousand grand to sit on my butt in an office and point an irresponsible finger at the nurses working their tails off and taking "customer" abuse!!
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Oct 29, 2009, 09:08 PM
Re: Only hiring new grads that are "cream of the crop"? Originally Posted by oldiebutgoodie Have any of you who can't find jobs considered the military? Obviously, this isn't the path for someone with a family and roots, but if you are a new grad with a BSN, the armed forces would probably like to talk to you.
You can go in the service as a 2nd lieutenant (with a BSN). Depending on the branch of the service, you may or may not be deployed. It's worth discussing with a recruiter if you don't have anything keeping you at home, and want some adventure.
Oldiebutgoodie
Proud Mom of an Air Force medic
I had a former classmate look into the AF. Her husband was AF. The recruiter told her she could fill out the application (30-some pages with major references!) but he already had so many there was no guarantee he could even get back to her by March. We need to be able to buy groceries before March!
I'd work a couple months for free - student loans are due back starting in February - if it got me in the door and let me demonstrate what I can do, but I doubt hospitals would go for that either. I'm likely going to move. No guarantees there either, but at least it'd be something other than sitting here waiting for jobs to open up.
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