Obese inmate execution??

  1. 1 COLUMBUS, Ohio-A condemned Ohio inmate who weighs at least 480 pounds wants his upcoming execution delayed, saying his weight could lead to a "torturous and lingering death."
    Ronald Post, who shot and killed a hotel clerk in northern Ohio almost 30 years ago, said his weight, vein access, scar tissue and other medical problems raise the likelihood his executioners would encounter severe problems. He's also so big that the execution gurney might not hold him, lawyers for Post said in federal court papers filed Friday.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/09/17/ronald-post-too-obese-to-execute_n_1891472.html



    This is really interesting to me and I just wanted to share with y'all. What are your thoughts? Not stating my support or condemnation of the death penalty, just medically speaking- could an experienced IV nurse be called in for a tough stick like this?
    Last edit by Silverdragon102 on Sep 19, '12 : Reason: Added beginning of news report to thread
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  3. Visit  Silverdragon102 profile page
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    Moved to the nursing news forum
  4. Visit  uRNmyway profile page
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    Yup. If we can get IV access in the hospital for morbidly obese people, they can get it for an execution. They could go with a PICC line, or any other kind of central access. Heck, they can place him on the floor for the execution if need be. I have no pity for killers. They don't believe in the human dignity of those THEY killed, so why should we care for theirs? In fact, there are a lot of them who I think SHOULD suffer a bit more when executed.
    And yes, before I get flamed, I realize that as a nurse, we should believe in the whole "Do no harm" thing. But in this case, we are not talking about a patient of mine. This is someone who was convicted of ending another person's life. Death penalty conversations aside, I think it IS possible to do it, and I think that how comfortable he is on a gurney is besides the point. This person and his attorney are clearly grabbing at straws to try to delay his execution, and I find it disgusting.
  5. Visit  turnforthenurseRN profile page
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    Yes they absolutely could be and should be. We have morbidly obese patients all of the time with peripheral lines, and they are usually a very difficult stick, too. This inmate would be no different.
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  6. Visit  Christy1019 profile page
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    Perhaps the executioners could employ some of the IV heroin using inmates to help them find a vein, they seem to be pretty good at it lol. Also, what is the reasoning for asking to DELAY the execution? Does he plan to start losing weight any time soon? Doubtful... As for his ridiculous request for gastric bypass, has he lost his damn mind??? We have millions of uninsured families that cannot afford to even see a doctor, let alone get an elective surgery that tax payers have to fund!
    I also believe in the death penalty, why should a murderer be granted free meals, shelter, and not ever have to work again, when their victim and the families suffer?
    If he is so concerned with the PAIN, perhaps they should just use a firing squad instead, that way its over quick and he gets to die the same way as his victim did when he shot them.
  7. Visit  ncat profile page
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    this is pushing death with dignity-just a bit. double the execution med according to weight and be done with it.
  8. Visit  CrunchRN profile page
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    If this works for him every inmate on death row would began eating as much as they could. Do they get unlimited portions of food in jail? How do you even get that weight with restricted access to food?
  9. Visit  prmenrs profile page
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    I'm kinda feeling sorry for the folks that have to transport him afterwards. Talk about dead weight.


    ok, i'm sorry.
  10. Visit  FMF Corpsman profile page
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    Quote from prmenrs
    I'm kinda feeling sorry for the folks that have to transport him afterwards. Talk about dead weight.


    ok, i'm sorry.
    No reason to be sorry, it is what it is, and you're right. Unless his family claims him, his fellow inmates will have to carry his fat butt to a Potters Field at the prison for burial, now they will be the ones complaining and rightfully so. As far as I'm concerned, he deserves no consideration. I didn't see where he gave any to his victim and all he's done is languish in prison for the past 30 years and fatten up like a ceremonial pig. All of the potential problems are easily surmountable. They could do a cut down on him with a local anesthetic and he can sit in a chair. The fat a$$ doesn't get any more free time to sit around, it's way past time to pay up. Time to go to Hell big boy.
  11. Visit  maelstrom143 profile page
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    Get an ER nurse in there. If we can start an IV in an obese, flatlining, frequent flyer with no veins in the middle of a code as she is being wheeled into the ER from the EMS then we can start this man an IV. Where there is a will, there is a way
  12. Visit  CallieNM profile page
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    Quote from Christy1019
    Perhaps the executioners could employ some of the IV heroin using inmates to help them find a vein, they seem to be pretty good at it lol. Also, what is the reasoning for asking to DELAY the execution? Does he plan to start losing weight any time soon? Doubtful... As for his ridiculous request for gastric bypass, has he lost his damn mind??? We have millions of uninsured families that cannot afford to even see a doctor, let alone get an elective surgery that tax payers have to fund!
    I also believe in the death penalty, why should a murderer be granted free meals, shelter, and not ever have to work again, when their victim and the families suffer?
    If he is so concerned with the PAIN, perhaps they should just use a firing squad instead, that way its over quick and he gets to die the same way as his victim did when he shot them.
    I don't think it is about "finding a vein" in the obese prisoner, from the research I have done and from what I have heard is that because of his weight he is not a good candidate for lethal injection because he could suffer, instead of just die like a normal weight person would with the cocktail they push into him.

    I totally agree that this killer, if sentenced to the death penalty, should get what's coming to him! But as the American Government is the executioner - they must make sure they are doing it humanely as possible. They can't let the man suffer.

    So pop a couple in his head... that will most likely take care of business. Or even better- lets make him run until he loses the weight and then execute him.
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  13. Visit  merlee profile page
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    Unfortunately, prisoners have access to a multitude of snack foods, as long as they have money in their canteen account. And how does money get in that account? Family and friends can bring money to put in the account, and some activities that inmates do will add to their account as well.

    I am not sure how they might go about putting in an IV if they stick him a few times and can't get it. Foot, maybe? Don't know.

    And who gets to decide on an appropriate dose of the meds? Twice the 'usual', three times? Again, I don't know.

    Here is what I DO know - - let's get this done. He has lived too long as it is.
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  14. Visit  RN in training profile page
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    Great replies y'all- thanks!


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