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Obese inmate execution?? - page 3

COLUMBUS, Ohio-A condemned Ohio inmate who weighs at least 480 pounds wants his upcoming execution delayed, saying his weight could lead to a "torturous and lingering death." Ronald Post, who shot... Read More

  1. Visit  uRNmyway profile page
    #26 5
    Quote from Sehille4774
    Ehh...I just saw this one on Grey's Anatomy or something of the like. . Sorry, as a nurse Can't say ill ever condone the death penalty...I just dont think we have the right to decide who deserves to live or die.
    Well for one, this thread wasn't so much about believing in the death penalty or no. As far as we are concerned, the state he is in has it, it is the law where he is, and they are punishing him to the full extent of the law.
    But I don't see why if someone feels THEY can choose whether someone lives or dies and brutally kills them that they should get to sit on their fat butts, eat canteen candy, make ridiculous requests, etc..All this on our tax dollars, for the rest of his life. So basically, although he cut this woman's life short, took her from her family, her children, he should get to live his whole life getting fat, not working, and not contributing in any positive way or form to society? No thanks. I say, whatever money was being spent on this guy, send it to her kids. It won't bring her back, but they can use it to pay their education, buy a house, whatever they want. In fact, I think while he was in jail they should have MADE him work, and sent any money he made to her family to make reparations for what he did to them. Just my two cents.
  2. Visit  classicdame profile page
    #27 1
    They make long catheters just for obese patients. I agree with above posts. It can be done. We do bariatric surgery here and all patients have IV before their surgery.
  3. Visit  DizzyLizzyNurse profile page
    #28 4
    This guy has been laying around in prison stuffing his face for my entire lifetime?!?!

    And just how was he planning on having gastric bypass surgery without an IV line?!

    Can't they just adjust the dose of the meds by his weight?

    Does he honestly think the law will say, "Ok you are too fat to kill. Keep eating and just hanging out til you die of an MI?" Unbelievable.
  4. Visit  CrufflerJJ profile page
    #29 4
    As an aside, as I type this post, a human being has probably been killed (within the past hour or so) ...deliberately....with fore-thought and legal malice....by the great state of Ohio.

    I drive from my home in southwest Ohio towards work in KY through Lucasville, OH on a regular basis. As I drive through that city, I often think of the prisoners held within that prison, especially those awaiting execution upon my behalf.

    Gee, thanks, Ohio!

    While I'm an adult male, owning multiple weapons (far too many, according to my darling wife....spiffy shiny steel blades + finely crafted projectile launching devices), and having had the training to properly utilize those devices, I shudder at the thought of a human locked in a steel/concrete cell...forcibly dragged/marched to an execution gurney, strapped in place, painful steel IVs stabbed through the skin, followed by injected poisons.

    Is that the behavior of a civilized society? I don't think so.

    That being said, if I saw the same human actively engaged in an attack/assault against me or one who I loved, I'd shoot the human to the ground without excessive concern. Threat engagement, kill-or-be-killed, and all that jazz.

    Color me confused/psychotic.

    If I, myself, see a person threatening me or mine, they are a legitimate target. If, on the other hand, after years of excruciating (drawn out, convoluted) legal wrangling, my State chooses to decide that the person is "guilty", and should be legally killed, I find that choice troubling. I have little faith in the "State" choosing those who are "worthy" of being legally killed.

    Having been on the receiving end of our most wondrous criminal injustice system, I understand (on a personal level) how criminal prosecution can occur "out of the blue", with little consideration for "fair or reasonable". Prosecution is all about the vague interpretation of our convoluted local/state/federal laws, interpreted by numerous actors upon the stage of "Law", and getting re-elected.

    In the meantime, humans suffer as a result.
  5. Visit  RN in training profile page
    #30 0
    Ooooh great post ^^! Thanks for the info.
  6. Visit  Jamaicandol profile page
    #31 2
    You guys miss the big picture. It seems like he is eating better than all of us. The stress of losing my freedom would drive me to skin and bones. Guess what? It is our tax dollars that have made him over weight.

    i am not sure what to think when it comes to the death penalty...

    If it is so easy to take a person's life, why would a killer cling so tightly to his own life? Does he value his life more than the life he took? Was he really given the death penalty when the system gave him 30 years to live?

    just a thought!
  7. Visit  Double-Helix profile page
    #32 2
    If they can get an IV for the gastric bypass surgery, they can get an IV for the execution...

    Morbidly obese patients in the hospitals require IV access every day, despite scar tissue and poor access. Once the access is obtained, there's no issue.

    I hardly think the size of the gurney would be a factor that should get the execution delayed. How hard is it to put a bed in the middle of a room?
  8. Visit  LPN2RNn2011 profile page
    #33 2
    This guy has been having 30 years of free meals and shelter while we pay for it! NOW they're FINALLY gonna give him the IV? REALLY!

    When there would be one of our patients admitted in the hospital and the Dialysis nurse on-call couldn't get the stick they would call me in (didn't matter if I was off or not) to get the stick so I don't see why not. Hell, start a central line who cares at this point we're talking about 30 YEARS people!
  9. Visit  LPN2RNn2011 profile page
    #34 2
    Quote from DizzyLizzyNurse
    This guy has been laying around in prison stuffing his face for my entire lifetime?!?!

    And just how was he planning on having gastric bypass surgery without an IV line?!

    Can't they just adjust the dose of the meds by his weight?

    Does he honestly think the law will say, "Ok you are too fat to kill. Keep eating and just hanging out til you die of an MI?" Unbelievable.
    LMAO!
    Last edit by LPN2RNn2011 on Sep 20, '12 : Reason: Highlight
  10. Visit  kcharnoski profile page
    #35 1
    why are you sorry? hey he didn't care about the life he ended... just saying...
  11. Visit  kcharnoski profile page
    #36 1
    ER nurses are AWESOME. I bet a number of you would do it for free ;-) lol
  12. Visit  kcharnoski profile page
    #37 0
    thanks for pointing that out. I forgot.
  13. Visit  PacoUSA profile page
    #38 3
    What I am more MAD about is the lawyer who is actually representing this fool. Whoever thought of putting a protection against cruel and unusual punishment in the Constitution should be shot (oh wait, they are already dead ... ). Seriously, like someone said, double the dose and be done with it.

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