NYSNA CFO indited for embezzelement


  1. north country gazette
    head of nurses group indicted for embezzlement
    [color=#6f6f6f]north country gazette, ny - 1 hour ago
    ... the former chief financial officer for the new york state nurses association who ... the state's largest nursing group has an annual budget of about $29 million. ...


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  2. 21 Comments

  3. by   UM Review RN
    This is why unions are not the answer to nursing's problems.
  4. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN
    This is why unions are not the answer to nursing's problems.
    Oh Angieo, I knew of a minister of a church who embezzeld money out of the tithing box!Doesnt make me an athiest!
  5. by   UM Review RN
    Not that I would think that unions are stealing our money, but just that most unions are ineffective--and some might as well be stealing our money, for all the good they do.
  6. by   Freedom42
    right on, ingelein. thank you.

  7. by   RN4MERCY
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN
    Not that I would think that unions are stealing our money, but just that most unions are ineffective--and some might as well be stealing our money, for all the good they do.
    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about that. From your previous post it appears that you just used the news about a former union CFO to take a cheap, sophomoric shot at unions in general. The problem is individual greed and selfishness. Try typing in "hospital CFO indicted" into a GOOGLE search and you will note that it returns several links to articles about fraud and embezzlement; and then try to tell us, "...not that I think hospitals are stealing our money, but just that most hospitals are ineffective--and some might as well be stealing our money, for all the good they do." The same thing happens if you search, "doctor indicted for fraud"...well, hopefully you get my drift.
  8. by   subee
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN
    This is why unions are not the answer to nursing's problems.
    Duh, its not a union - its NY's State Association and representing nurses is only a small part of what they do to help ALL nurses in NY, not just ones who belong to NYSNA.
  9. by   UM Review RN
    Quote from subee
    Duh, its not a union - its NY's State Association and representing nurses is only a small part of what they do to help ALL nurses in NY, not just ones who belong to NYSNA.
    Union, not-union, association, whatever...my point is that nurses have the same lousy working conditions all over the country (except maybe CNA-controlled parts of CA).

    No matter what group nurses give their hard-earned money to, ostensibly to improve working conditions in the profession, it's not working, and there's always the chance that another toad like this will simply steal the money anyway.

    You--and I mean that collectively, not to any individual poster who responded to my post--might not agree with my opinion, but there's no need to be rude. This, like everyone else's opinion on this topic, is JMO, and if I have not presented it respectfully enough, I apologise.
  10. by   UM Review RN
    Quote from RN4MERCY
    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about that. From your previous post it appears that you just used the news about a former union CFO to take a cheap, sophomoric shot at unions in general.
    Yeah, you're right, I admit it.

    When I hear stuff like that, my first thought is that I'm really glad we're not unionized here. I'd really hate to give so much money and then get nothing back for it. Worse, to have it stolen like that.

    Dang shame. Nurses do work hard for the money.
  11. by   hogan4736
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN

    You--and I mean that collectively, not to any individual poster who responded to my post--might not agree with my opinion, but there's no need to be rude. This, like everyone else's opinion on this topic, is JMO, and if I have not presented it respectfully enough, I apologise.
    Are we SO afraid of the PC mods, that we have to veil an appropriate defense to an obvious slam (duh) by the collective poster (subee)??
    Last edit by hogan4736 on Nov 28, '06
  12. by   UM Review RN
    Quote from hogan4736
    Are we SO afraid of the PC mods, that we have to veil an appropriate defense to an obvious slam (duh) by the collective poster (subee)??
    I dunno. I wasn't really taken with the post stating that my anti-union remark was "cheap" or "sophomoric" either. But who knows how I came across; it's easy to misunderstand words in print.

    I didn't feel like I was tiptoeing around the fence on that one because it can be difficult to present an unpopular opinion. I used to believe in organizations like NYSNA, thought they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. But they have no teeth.

    So I have to wonder how many of us throw our money away on organizations like this--unions, nurses' associations--and get nothing back but the same lousy working conditions that perpetuate the shortage in the first place.

    Then some clown pulls a stunt like this.

    Am I the only one who sees the irony of a man running what is predominantly a woman's organization? Am I the only one who wonders how he got away with so much for so long?

    Doesn't anyone else see the s/s that it's because the organization itself is too imbued with supporting the status quo to make any significant changes?

    Or am I just being cynical, seeing yet another prime example of nurses throwing their potential power away. Again.
  13. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Sad state of affairs, union or not. Embezzlement is a horrible crime with far-reaching consequences.
  14. by   hogan4736
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN
    ... because it can be difficult to present an unpopular opinion...
    you're right...it is...beacuse the mods, historically, have punished anyone who wants to stir up a (good, productive) debate on this board...

    defend your point, even if it's out there...

    PCN was originally mold...THAt was out there...

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