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No. 30
from Nemhain
Old May 03, 2007, 06:17 PM

Default Re: Nursing Wages Rise, Shortage Continues (The Morning News)
Originally Posted by EwwThat'sNasty View Post
...I suggest that in not too many years there will be more nurses than needed, but with an extreme shortage in certain areas such as CRNA's, NNPs, ANP's and Master's and PhD nurses. We'll just have to see.
I'm already seeing that. At one hospital all of the nurses were talking about "the good ol' days" of 4 to 7 years ago when they could work all of the overtime they wanted. One nurse hadn't worked any overtime in 6 months! It's getting more difficult at my hospital to move to different departments.

I honestly think nursing schools should start putting the breaks on flooding the market with new grads; some schools want to increase enrollment by 100% in the next few years. When I graduated only 5 to 10% of my class had no job when they graduated; now it's about 15%.

What people don't understand is that there is no "true" shortage of nurses. There were approximately 450,000 RNs that are not working in nursing at all 3 years ago and there were about 100,000 open nursing positions in the U.S. Many of those nurses have come back to the workforce because working conditions have improved. When California passed their ratio laws about 10,000 RNs that left the profession came back to it!


I bet new graduate RNs will have a difficult time finding a job in about 5 years.
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No. 31
from ingelein
Old May 04, 2007, 02:29 PM

Default Re: Nursing Wages Rise, Shortage Continues (The Morning News)
NO amount of pay is worth horrible working conditions, unless the hospitals and nursing homes are forced to comply with state and federal mandates for staffing, and fair employment practices, there will continue to be a shortage of "victims", oh I mean nurses to work in these hell holes, mostly speaking of nursing homes.Unions need to be STRONG and effectivly promote the protection and welfare of its members.If nurses begin to feel protected and not dangerously understaffed, there may be a large influx of nurses who have left the field in disgust.
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No. 32
from twotrees2
Old May 30, 2007, 08:48 PM

Default Re: Nursing Wages Rise, Shortage Continues (The Morning News)
Originally Posted by cuddlebug View Post
Alot of hospitals only hire new grads 2xs a year so you end up waiting 6 months just to get an interview. This has been my experience. Then I wonder humm nursing shortage? The reason why is because they train new grads in groups. Wish there was some other way. I'm going nuts.
at least they get some training - in our small town area your lucky to get a whol.e day for paperwprk before being thrown to the floor/wolves- and that includes new grads - if i were a newe grad id run fo rthe hills too - when i went to the prison i got a whole 3 days( onje i had to beg for) of paperwprk and videos and information on how to deal with inmates - and thats only cause its state - any where else you dont even geta shift if they are short -
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No. 33
from twotrees2
Old May 30, 2007, 09:18 PM

Default Re: Nursing Wages Rise, Shortage Continues (The Morning News)
Originally Posted by Nemhain View Post
I'm already seeing that. At one hospital all of the nurses were talking about "the good ol' days" of 4 to 7 years ago when they could work all of the overtime they wanted. One nurse hadn't worked any overtime in 6 months! It's getting more difficult at my hospital to move to different departments.

I honestly think nursing schools should start putting the breaks on flooding the market with new grads; some schools want to increase enrollment by 100% in the next few years. When I graduated only 5 to 10% of my class had no job when they graduated; now it's about 15%.

What people don't understand is that there is no "true" shortage of nurses. There were approximately 450,000 RNs that are not working in nursing at all 3 years ago and there were about 100,000 open nursing positions in the U.S. Many of those nurses have come back to the workforce because working conditions have improved. When California passed their ratio laws about 10,000 RNs that left the profession came back to it!


I bet new graduate RNs will have a difficult time finding a job in about 5 years.
from what i have heard california is the only place tyhat has cleaned up staffing/patient ratios - i know wisconsin sure hasnt anywhwere
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