Nursing student expelled for Facebook photo/judge reverses dismissal

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    nursing student expelled for facebook photo

    by matt campbell

    the kansas city star




    doyle byrnes




    a nursing student at johnson county community college is stunned to find herself booted out of school just months before graduation.
    her offense: posting on facebook a photograph of herself posing with a human placenta in class.
    doyle byrnes, who had expected to graduate in may and begin working as a registered nurse in the fall, is now in federal court seeking an injunction against johnson county community college.


    read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/12/30...#ixzz19h1gv5u7




    http://www.kansascity.com/2010/12/30...r-posting.html
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    From 'PA'; Joined Dec '08; Posts: 52; Likes: 86.

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  4. Visit  2126 profile page
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    Wow...so sad. Just shows how careful we have to be. We weren't allowed to take pictures in undergrad in any labs, so I could see how this would be a problem. This is more than just a lab....
  5. Visit  SweettartRN profile page
    17
    Interesting.
    The school will probably use these types of photos in upcoming years to advertise the program.
    We took pictures all through our program. Including a quite controversial one of a baby being born in a mannequin. Personally I don't see that anything was done wrong here.
    tsalagicara, FocusRN, KarmaWiseRaven, and 14 others like this.
  6. Visit  VickyRN profile page
    15
    This is very harsh. Unless the nursing program has some sort of clause in the student manual prohibiting taking pictures in the learning lab, the nursing program does not have a legal leg to stand on in expelling this student, IMHO.

    We allow students to take pictures in our learning lab in our nursing program.
    tsalagicara, LockportRN, fromtheseaRN, and 12 others like this.
  7. Visit  dishes profile page
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    If I were a student at the school, I would be concerned about the administrator's mindset, expelling students without following proper disciplinary process and determining that a picture of a placenta, (something most people have seen pictures of since grade school) is "unprofessional", seems like the actions of an irrationale person to me.

    dishes
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  8. Visit  crbetts profile page
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    Nursing student expelled for Facebook photo - KansasCity.com


    What do you think of this? I don't see where there was any HIPAA violation?
    FocusRN, LockportRN, KarmaWiseRaven, and 4 others like this.
  9. Visit  llg profile page
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    Unless there is more to the story ... I think the school over-reacted.
    FocusRN, LockportRN, KarmaWiseRaven, and 20 others like this.
  10. Visit  CBsMommy profile page
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    They weren't kicked out because of a HIPAA violation, they were kicked out of the school for being unprofessional and representing their school in an unprofessional light. You can see in the photo where she is wearing the school badge on her uniform.

    In my school's by-laws (and many schools' by-laws) it states there are no cameras allowed at clinical and under no circumstances are pictures to be taken.

    Is it fair of the school to kick them out instead of providing a write up? I don't really know. If the students broke their school's code of ethics, it was within the rights of the school to kick them out.
  11. Visit  symphie profile page
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    If this was in a hospital setting, I could see what the problem was. In our school, we're required to keep our phones in "airplane mode" to deactivate the network as well as the camera on the phone. However, the article states that the students were "in class" which I interpret as meaning they were in a lab setting at the school. My class (as well as the students in classes before us) has taken tons of photos in lab and posted them on facebook. It didn't violate HIPAA, so nobody has a problem. I think that even if there's more to this story, the school still overreacted. If the student took down the photo right after being asked, she should have just been given a warning or simply a single write-up. She should NOT have been kicked out of school.
  12. Visit  CBsMommy profile page
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    Quote from symphie
    If this was in a hospital setting, I could see what the problem was. In our school, we're required to keep our phones in "airplane mode" to deactivate the network as well as the camera on the phone. However, the article states that the students were "in class" which I interpret as meaning they were in a lab setting at the school. My class (as well as the students in classes before us) has taken tons of photos in lab and posted them on facebook. It didn't violate HIPAA, so nobody has a problem. I think that even if there's more to this story, the school still overreacted. If the student took down the photo right after being asked, she should have just been given a warning or simply a single write-up. She should NOT have been kicked out of school.

    Actually, it states that she was attending a lab off-site at Olathe Medical Center. That, in my humble opinion, should be regarded as the same as being at clinicals.
    KarmaWiseRaven, azhiker96, RN_10, and 9 others like this.
  13. Visit  Trilldayz,RN BSN profile page
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    Geez, although *I* wouldn't have posted a placenta on my FB page (kinda gross), I think this was definately poor judgement, although I didn't see unprofessionalism.

    BUT this goes to show how people obviously have WAY too much time on their hands when they become Facebook Patrol. A suspension MIGHT have been warrented...but EXPULSION for an unidentifiable placenta? What's going to be next? Expulsion for wearing my scrubs while eating a Big Mac?
    WillBeRN2, candied, KarmaWiseRaven, and 12 others like this.
  14. Visit  symphie profile page
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    Quote from CBsMommy
    Actually, it states that she was attending a lab off-site at Olathe Medical Center. That, in my humble opinion, should be regarded as the same as being at clinicals.
    You're right. My mistake.
    I still stand by my opinion that the student shouldn't have been kicked out. The instructor knew about the pictures and didn't say anything, and the student took the picture down immediately after being told that it was a problem.
    But, to each his own. I hope everything works out for her.
    KarmaWiseRaven, MsPC, RetRN77, and 4 others like this.
  15. Visit  GLB_68 profile page
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    Sometimes you pay for your lack of judgement. What was the students point in posting a photo of her holding an umbilical cord leaning over some one's placenta? Showing off? It show a disregard for the patient. What this girl did was immature, unprofessional.


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