Nursing student expelled for Facebook photo/judge reverses dismissal - page 24

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  1. Visit  BabyLady profile page
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    Quote from CrazierThanYou
    Does it really matter one way or the other?
    It does.

    If it was a donated specimen...then to me, it would have been no different than if it had been on display anywhere else.

    However, if it was in the pathology department? The mother who produced the placenta had it taken there to be examined and for NO OTHER purpose.
  2. Visit  backatit2 profile page
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    Quote from AtomicWoman
    Sorry, I still come down on the school's side. What those students did was unseemly and unprofessional and shed a bad light on the nursing PROFESSION. It violated the trust of the person who had donated the placenta, it disrespected the human body and could easily discourage other people from donating body parts to science, even if they die.

    I wonder if this young woman will have any difficulty finding a job when she graduates.
    i doubt it - in fact, she probably has job offers flowing in from all over the country. that's how silly things have become!
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  3. Visit  opossum profile page
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    This sort of strays from the article, but what do you all think about posting non-identifying info about patients on Facebook (or on any website, including this one)?

    I see a lot of my friends posting stuff in their status like "My 50-yr old morbidly obese patient had a panniculectomy and ordered a cheeseburger today LOL" (totally fictitious example there, BTW).

    It's not really identifying info, but what if a pt or family member or coworker sees this and knows who you're talking about?

    I'm curious because I see this more and more lately on FB...
  4. Visit  rn/writer profile page
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    Quote from opossum
    This sort of strays from the article, but what do you all think about posting non-identifying info about patients on Facebook (or on any website, including this one)?

    I see a lot of my friends posting stuff in their status like "My 50-yr old morbidly obese patient had a panniculectomy and ordered a cheeseburger today LOL" (totally fictitious example there, BTW).

    It's not really identifying info, but what if a pt or family member or coworker sees this and knows who you're talking about?

    I'm curious because I see this more and more lately on FB...
    This is sooo not wise!

    We staff members encourage people here to be very careful in revealing anything that could connect them to a patient in real life. Share a situation, if you must, but disguise the details. We've had several instances where people begged us to remove posts/threads because they were in danger of getting disciplined or losing their job.

    Social media sites do not have this layer of protection, so if people post something they shouldn't, it's out there for all to see.

    What it comes down to is, "Are you willing to risk your schooling or your career for the dubious pleasure of publicly narrating your life?"
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  5. Visit  misyan profile page
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    good thing I found this thread. My ethics professor want our class to write a journal on this story and I am completely clueless about what to write.
  6. Visit  Angelval7 profile page
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    I have been a nurse for 35 years, and have had the privilege to mentor student nurses.
    My comments regarding the behavior of those noted in the article, "Nursing Students Expelled For Posting Photo of a Placenta on Facebook."
    Personally, I stay away from Facebook, I am uncomfortable having my personal information 'out there' for anyone to access. I have heard too many stories where people get "burned" due to something they have posted or is posted by someone else on their page.
    I acknowledge that we are rarely made aware of all the facts in any given situation reported by the media.
    The Nursing Instructor's alleged response was ambiguous. When told to remove the photo from Facebook, allegedly, the student did.
    Responding to the information available, the Nursing Instructor should be held accountable for her error in accurately educating her students regarding professional behavior.
    Although the students involved showed poor judgment, expulsion is too severe a consequence. They should be placed on probation, allowed to continue their studies, and have their individual performance monitored.
    Students are going to make mistakes, it is the responsibility of the instructor and the institution to educate and correct, not to discourage and destroy.
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  7. Visit  PacoUSA profile page
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    From the Kansas City Star:

    "Doyle Byrnes has every intention of resuming her nursing studies after a federal judge overturned her dismissal from the program for posting a photo of a human placenta on Facebook."

    Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/06...case-goes.html

    The saga ends for now ... and what kind of precedent does this set?
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    Threads merged
  9. Visit  VickyRN profile page
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    clifford cohen, byrnes’ attorney, argued his client was deprived of due process and a disciplinary hearing.
    in melgren’s ruling, he found:
    •photos are taken to be viewed, and if the students were given permission to photograph the placenta, it became irrelevant what they did with the pictures.
    •there was no violation of any patient’s privacy because there was nothing in the photos to identify whose placenta it was.
    •byrnes was not allowed a fair hearing on her dismissal.
    melgren acknowledged that the facebook element of the case mystified him, but he said: “today’s generation of students is today’s generation of students and i don’t know that what they did was disruptive. i think the college’s reaction was disruptive.”


    read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/06...#ixzz1bgwvzeay
    reasonable and sane decision by the judge. i totally agree.
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  10. Visit  kamaboko profile page
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    The thread that won't die. :-)
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  11. Visit  lynnintn profile page
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    Quote from pa ed rn
    nursing student expelled for facebook photo

    by matt campbell

    the kansas city star




    doyle byrnes




    a nursing student at johnson county community college is stunned to find herself booted out of school just months before graduation.
    her offense: posting on facebook a photograph of herself posing with a human placenta in class.
    doyle byrnes, who had expected to graduate in may and begin working as a registered nurse in the fall, is now in federal court seeking an injunction against johnson county community college.


    read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/12/30...#ixzz19h1gv5u7




    http://www.kansascity.com/2010/12/30...r-posting.html
    another example of nurses eating their young before they are ready to leave the nest! i wonder how this will impact this young woman's nursing career?
  12. Visit  Angelval7 profile page
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    ."...and what kind of precedent does this set"

    You tell me!

    Justice....maybe? I know that is word is a stranger to our judicial system....

    What do you think the decision should have been?

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