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  1. Visit  Anxious Patient profile page
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    here's a news video of yoder and her attorney being interviewed.

    http://www.wlky.com/education/18923747/detail.html
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  2. Visit  sirI profile page
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    Quote from leslie :-D
    i'm not understanding yoder's contention of free speech being violated.
    as a couple of others have mentioned, there are consequences to our actions.
    that is not the same as a right being violated however.
    just as she is free to speak her mind, others are just as free to protest.

    siri, the hearing has been canceled?
    what are the implications of this?
    that she won't be heard??
    or is it being postponed?

    leslie
    It looks like (after reading this) that the hearing will not be rescheduled:

    Yoder's lawyer, Daniel J. Canon, said the hearing, scheduled before U.S. District Judge Charles R. Simpson III, was called off at the request of U of L, which claims it's too late in the semester to reinstate her.
    http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...NE06/904110302

    But, this is a separate issue from Yoder's lawsuit. The premise of her lawsuit is a "trash defense". In other words, so many other internet users trash individuals/entities, why can't I?...
  3. Visit  ®Nurse profile page
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    Quote from LandslideRN

    From reading her page I was able to tell she worked at a hospital, but it was impossible to tell if she was a nurse or not. I figured she was a nursing assistant or something by the way she talked. But she's already a nurse? I suppose I could look up her license, if she had one, on the La SBON website...if I felt like I had the energy. And I wold have thought that a registered nurse would have more brains than to talk like that.


    LandslideRN
    Nina Yoder is, err, 'was' a nursing student at the La nursing school that she attended.
    Last edit by ®Nurse on Apr 11, '09 : Reason: HTML quotes provided unreadable format
  4. Visit  elkpark profile page
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    Quote from sirI
    The premise of her lawsuit is a "trash defense". In other words, so many other internet users trash individuals/entities, why can't I?...
    I would guess that that defense won't get her v. far, since the issue in her case is not that she's randomly "trashing" an individual on the internet, but disclosing protected medical information which she is legally required to keep confidential.

    Personally, I think she deserves whatever she gets. Maybe this incident will be a wake-up call for any others similarly inclined.
  5. Visit  Atheos profile page
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    The UofL position is that her identification of patients constitutes the breach.

    NOT the offensive words.
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  6. Visit  sirI profile page
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    Quote from Atheos
    The UofL position is that her identification of patients constitutes the breach.

    NOT the offensive words.
    Right, thus her expulsion.

    Her position (Yoder's lawsuit), however, uses the premise of the trash defense. 1st Amendment Right to say whatever she pleases because others have/do say the same thing (or worse).....on the internet.
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  7. Visit  stephenfnielsen profile page
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    Let's protect freedom! HIPPA aside (which is enough to kill this from the outset), this school should have the the freedom to write vague rules that can be selectively enforced, and we as students or potential employers have the freedom to choose to do business with other schools if we don't like those rules!
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  8. Visit  Vito Andolini profile page
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    Quote from Atheos
    Oh dang. I didn't know we lost the freedom of speech?
    For some really interesting reading, read The Patriot Acts, both of them. You'll see that free speech isn't all you've already lost.
  9. Visit  Vito Andolini profile page
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    Quote from lilla_fjaril
    I'll cut her some slack over the offensive material because while I didn't find it humorous, maybe she thought she was being funny in an x-rated comedian kind of way. Personally I sometimes enjoy shows like South Park and Family Guy that utilize offensive material, and I don't think that makes me a bad nurse.

    However, her coworker invited her to share a special experience to fulfill a class requirement and she should've been grateful and respectful. (I couldn't even get a nurse to let me interview her when I was in school, let alone see her naked.)

    I could see kicking her out just for 'reflecting negatively' upon the school. We were told we couldn't go have a single drink at the local bar in our school scrubs. The big thing is though, what she wrote is a clear and unquestionable HIPAA violation. It doesn't matter that I can't ID this woman from a few states away. HIPAA states that if ANYONE gets privileged medical information--even info about a long labor--because of disclosure by medical personnel it's a violation. Surely one or more of her ER coworkers will be able to identify her based on her circumstances and delivery date.

    Our freedom of speech does include the right to spew extremist vitriol on-line, but it doesn't include the right to defame others. She's old enough to know better. For a link to an ER doc who has posted some controversial views and case info without violating any laws try: http://scalpelorsword.blogspot.com/
    Do you have a couple of examples of extremist vitriol? thanks!
  10. Visit  Atheos profile page
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    Quote from Vito Andolini
    For some really interesting reading, read The Patriot Acts, both of them. You'll see that free speech isn't all you've already lost.
    Oh I agree with you. I was being sarcastic! Hehe.
  11. Visit  azhiker96 profile page
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    I wonder if the camera played a part in this. I can't photograph patients unless I want to lose my job.
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  12. Visit  twow profile page
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    Quote from Atheos
    The UofL position is that her identification of patients constitutes the breach.

    NOT the offensive words.
    uhhh, i dont think so. i would think it includes all her actions including the pt id.


    http://www.wlky.com/education/18923747/detail.html

    "It has been determined that your internet postings regarding patient activities and identification as a University of Louisville School of Nursing student violates the nursing honor code which you pledged to uphold," the letter said.

    same thing as a division-1 football team kicking a ball player off the team for getting into fistfights, DUIs, etc. yoder has every right to free speech as does the school have the right to disassociate itself from someone who doesn't comply with their standard of conduct.
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  13. Visit  Atheos profile page
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    Quote from twow
    uhhh, i dont think so. i would think it includes all her actions including the pt id.
    "It has been determined that your internet postings regarding patient activities and identification as a University of Louisville School of Nursing student violates the nursing honor code which you pledged to uphold," the letter said.
    The quote specifically refers to patient activities and identification.

    HIPAA. It's right there...

    UofL have not referred to her other posts, her racism or other behavior. Only patient identification.
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