Nursing Student Blog Lawsuit - page 5

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  1. Visit  VickyRN profile page
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    Her blog is *Absolutely* Disgusting *

    I've said it many times - the Internet is neither anonymous nor innocuous. All posts can eventually be traced through the ISP down to one's street address. Never post anything that you would not want to say in front of a crowded room of strangers.

    This person was certainly very foolish in openly stating her name and the name of her nursing school. With her hideous remarks, she violated pt confidentiality and dignity, as well as the nursing school code of honor.

    She ought to be shamed-faced and remorseful. Instead, she is brazenly filing this lawsuit. Not only will she not win her lawsuit, but no other nursing school will want her as a student. With all this negative publicity, it will be extremely difficult for her to find a job in any healthcare facility ever.
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  3. Visit  Anxious Patient profile page
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    Could someone please explain how the student was allowed to film the birth. I assumed that any filming of medical procedures by staff was tightly regulated by the hospital so there was no possibility it would end up in the public domain.
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  4. Visit  thatpasunshine profile page
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    ok here is the thing.... i dont care what she said .. i dont even care who she said it about.. you know the saying.. opinions are like $$$$$$$$... everyone has one. i think that my issue with her is the total lack of judgement it showed on her part to publicly blast her opinions when lets face it we live in a society that openly laughs at the constiution on a daily basis. and if people dont have the good sense to know when keeping their mouths shut is in their own best interest.... then they deserve whatever happens. i will be honest i am one of the most opinionated people anyone that knows me knows.... and even i would not have done something so stupidly irresponsible
    Last edit by sirI on Apr 11, '09
  5. Visit  ♪♫ in my ♥ profile page
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    It looks like a pretty clear HIPPA violation to me... at least as it's been explained in what I've read and been told.

    She'll be fortunate if ALL that happens is getting kicked out of school. What MIGHT happen is that she gets sued by the patient for invasion of privacy and fined by the federal government under HIPPA enforcement.
  6. Visit  DeLana_RN profile page
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    Quote from libnat
    I'LL be in the minority here and say I didn't find her postings disturbing or proof she could not perform as a nurse. The Ann Coulter of the nursing world perhaps, of course dear Ann is pretty hated.
    I can't stand Ann Coulter either, but there is simply no comparison. Coulter is no nurse, and anyone who doesn't want to listen/watch can simply tune her out.

    Yoder's patients, who may be people she despises ("with an IQ of no more than 10"), or women about to give birth to "a creep" (what she calls all babies/children) may not have that option.

    I doubt Yoder was able to hide her attitude and prejudices in her classes or clinicals. Kudos to the nursing school for finally doing the right thing (well, she gave them the rope...).

    DeLana
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  7. Visit  LandslideRN profile page
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    Dear FirestarterRN,

    I agree with you, btw. Calling the baby a "creep"...I don't get it (and then capitalizing it yet!). If she was really just "blowing off steam", I would NOT have put that on a public page!!! Her writing IS terrible and, ironically, maybe that will serve her well in her case to come. Not everybody writes well, contrary to what CCC would like to believe.

    From reading her page I was able to tell she worked at a hospital, but it was impossible to tell if she was a nurse or not. I figured she was a nursing assistant or something by the way she talked. But she's already a nurse? I suppose I could look up her license, if she had one, on the La SBON website...if I felt like I had the energy. And I wold have thought that a registered nurse would have more brains than to talk like that.

    I do NOT agree with the things she has said, mind you. I just don't believe she should have been dismissed for those remarks. Of course, even if she wasn't dismissed, they would have made it very VERY hard for her to pass. And, like someone else said on this page, she has the right to free speech, nobody sanctioned this, but as a registered nurse she is expected to hold herself to those standards. As I tell all my friends, "I'm no longer just a person, but a registered nurse." There's no written rule saying we have to be more perfect than others. It's just the way it is. Everything we do is ALWAYS under scrutiny by the powers that be, whether we are at work or in school or at an amusement park. She's going to pay a heavy price for letting her mouth/fingers run rampid.

    And since when do they let students in to videotape a birth? I was very confused by that part too.

    BTW...I love your name, Firestarter. Don't get me wrong. I like to think of myself as a bit of a closet pyromaniac myself, if I had the safe environment to be one...but I don't...so I can't play with fire.

    LandslideRN
  8. Visit  twow profile page
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    I looked at her MySpace page. She comes off as an angry, racist gun fanatic with a violent streak who hates babies, hates God, and hates people who believe in God, and worse yet insists on her right to spout off her hate for others because of the freedeom of speech. Just the fact that others are concerned about her bringing guns to school, true or not, speaks of her character. She is bitter and has poor judgement. I would not trust her to care for the population-at-large. And I sure as hell wouldn't want her to represent my nursing program.
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  9. Visit  DeLana_RN profile page
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    Quote from Anxious Patient
    Could someone please explain how the student was allowed to film the birth. I assumed that any filming of medical procedures by staff was tightly regulated by the hospital so there was no possibility it would end up in the public domain.
    I was wondering about that myself. I assume the pt gave her permission (and will, no doubt, very much regret that now).

    But is it ever permissible, even if the pt agrees? And where was her clinical instructor during all this time?

    DeLana
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  10. Visit  DeLana_RN profile page
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    Quote from LandslideRN

    ...

    From reading her page I was able to tell she worked at a hospital, but it was impossible to tell if she was a nurse or not. I figured she was a nursing assistant or something by the way she talked. But she's already a nurse? I suppose I could look up her license, if she had one, on the La SBON website...if I felt like I had the energy. And I wold have thought that a registered nurse would have more brains than to talk like that.

    ...

    LandslideRN
    I just looked her up on the Kentucky BON site... she is a "nurse aide".

    DeLana

    P.S. I'm relieved now... I was worried she had a nursing license!
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  11. Visit  lilla_fjaril profile page
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    I'll cut her some slack over the offensive material because while I didn't find it humorous, maybe she thought she was being funny in an x-rated comedian kind of way. Personally I sometimes enjoy shows like South Park and Family Guy that utilize offensive material, and I don't think that makes me a bad nurse.

    However, her coworker invited her to share a special experience to fulfill a class requirement and she should've been grateful and respectful. (I couldn't even get a nurse to let me interview her when I was in school, let alone see her naked.)

    I could see kicking her out just for 'reflecting negatively' upon the school. We were told we couldn't go have a single drink at the local bar in our school scrubs. The big thing is though, what she wrote is a clear and unquestionable HIPAA violation. It doesn't matter that I can't ID this woman from a few states away. HIPAA states that if ANYONE gets privileged medical information--even info about a long labor--because of disclosure by medical personnel it's a violation. Surely one or more of her ER coworkers will be able to identify her based on her circumstances and delivery date.

    Our freedom of speech does include the right to spew extremist vitriol on-line, but it doesn't include the right to defame others. She's old enough to know better. For a link to an ER doc who has posted some controversial views and case info without violating any laws try: http://scalpelorsword.blogspot.com/
  12. Visit  leslie :-D profile page
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    i'm not understanding yoder's contention of free speech being violated.
    as a couple of others have mentioned, there are consequences to our actions.
    that is not the same as a right being violated however.
    just as she is free to speak her mind, others are just as free to protest.

    siri, the hearing has been canceled?
    what are the implications of this?
    that she won't be heard??
    or is it being postponed?

    leslie
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  13. Visit  HM2VikingRN profile page
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    The key behaviors were "Confidentiality and Professionalism."

    Admittedly these can be subjective standards but it falls under terms and conditions of employment. Her posts were just a bit too close to the line through discussion about patients she cared for as a student. I absolutely defend her right to have thoughts and reactions but to put them out so publicly calls her judgement into question. Ultimately our patients have a right to privacy that supercedes our free speech.

    As a student I was expected to produce journals for class but that was only for internal review between myself and my clinical instructor.

    She could have kept a private journal for her own consumption without any fear of retribution but once she put it out to MYSPACE it became public.
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  14. Visit  GilaRRT profile page
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    What is wrong with us hateful gun nuts?

    Have to agree, HIPPA strikes again. You have freedom of speach; however, why are people surprised when they end up dealing with the consequences? You talk enough crap, and eventually it will catch up with you. Sympathy level, 0.
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