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Nursing Student Blog Lawsuit - page 16

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  1. Visit  libnat profile page
    Oh and my screen name stands for LiberalNation, mine and Nina's views could not be further apart.

    http://www.politicsandcurrentaffairs...ralnation.html
  2. Visit  cardiacRN2006 profile page
    Or so you say. My screen name means I'm a cardiac nurse. And I'm not even close to being a cardiac nurse.

    But if I was coming on here pretending to be someone other than myself, I'd pick a screen name as far apart from my views as possible.

    If you want, I too can put up a link in desperation to prove I'm not someone...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiac_nursing
  3. Visit  libnat profile page
  4. Visit  BBFRN profile page
    A gentle reminder to please debate the topic, and not each other. We can disagree without being disagreeable.

    Just so everyone backs off of this POV: libnat is not Nina Yoder.
  5. Visit  libnat profile page
    Another reason this story is of intrests to me is that it is a conservative student on a liberal campus. There are still a lot of religious groups at play but besides that most professors and admin hold quite liberal views and classes like sociology and cultural diversity teach from the liberal perspective.
  6. Visit  BBFRN profile page
    Quote from libnat
    Of course, it has all the trappings of things which interest me.

    My school, my degree/program, administrator (those with power) vs student (those without), gun policy, unwarrented body search, freedom of online speech, selective enforcment of a vague code.
    I would like to address the power part of your post. As a student, you are not without power. I'm not discounting how you feel regarding that, but do hope that you don't feel powerless as a student.


    Forgive the Spiderman reference here, but 'with great power, comes great responsibility.' When one is charged with providing care to vulnerable patients or populations, one has a responsibility to provide that care with respect, integrity, respect for privacy, and in assuring dignity and autonomy are preserved. The Code of Ethics encompasses this, as does the Code of Student Conduct. You will have that drilled into your head, once you move into the upper division of your program. It is not some 'vague code' to those who are in the program. Yoder's own description of one of her class discussions desplays this. This code is not to take away your freedom of speech. It's to assure the ethical application of any power you may hold in the nurse-to-patient relationship.

    As for administrators wielding power- they too have an ethical standard by which they must abide while looking at the whole situation, and it was upheld in this case.
    Last edit by BBFRN on Apr 17, '09 : Reason: edited for Ivan...LOL
  7. Visit  BBFRN profile page
    Quote from libnat
    Another reason this story is of intrests to me is that it is a conservative student on a liberal campus. There are still a lot of religious groups at play but besides that most professors and admin hold quite liberal views and classes like sociology and cultural diversity teach from the liberal perspective.
    What is a non-liberal view of cultural diversity?
  8. Visit  libnat profile page
    anti-intergration just for the sake of intergration. Conservatives were against the bussing program louisville used to have for example.
  9. Visit  BBFRN profile page
    Here is Yoder's description of one of her class discussions:

    "This one is about a pearl of philosophy given to me during my Nursing Communication class. (Yes, this is yet another rave about the irrationality of a contemporary nurse).
    Our instructor, the sweetest loveliest lady, had been teaching us, future nurses, about compassion and sympathy. You see, we nurses are supposed to be the motherly type to all who come for our help (I'm down with that). We should treat everyone equally, regardless of their gender, race, social status, looks, ethnicity, disease or lifestyle. This includes overweight people, smokers, alcoholics, drug addicts, etc. (I'm down with that too, since after all, I'm all-accepting, forgiving and loving)..."

    To me, this exemplifies how she certainly did not view the student Code of Conduct as vague, as she expresses how she is being taught to treat her patients at this institution. She apparently doesn't agree with this.

    If she wants to make a claim that the school provided vague standards of conduct, then she certainly flattens her own argument here.
  10. Visit  libnat profile page
    It's vague because it is subjective, one persons prefessional is anothers.......

    Like I seeing nothing wrong with what she wrote while you do.
  11. Visit  BBFRN profile page
    Quote from libnat
    anti-intergration just for the sake of intergration. Conservatives were against the bussing program louisville used to have for example.

    Actually, it wasn't only conservatives. It was the African American community in the West End that won the end to forced busing in Louisville. Parents were unable to attend PTA meetings, etc., because they were all the way across town, they were unable to get adequate public transportation to the schools to attend these things and participate in their kids' education.

    Lots of people disagree with forced busing.

    But, back to the topic at hand...
    Last edit by BBFRN on Apr 17, '09
  12. Visit  ivanh3 profile page
    Quote from libnat
    Don't be so sure.
    Actually, I hope she does become a nurse some day....Gasp....I really mean that, but I honestly think she needs help. She has a child, who I am sure she loves dearly, and I hope that maybe this will be a wake up call for her. I don't know how sincere she was when she offered to go to counseling, and after her "two faced Siamese" comment I think it is okay for me to be a bit dubious/skeptical. But maybe, just maybe, even if she were to do that with less than sincere intent, she might pick up on that she is carrying a lot of hate. That her child is watching her and as of right now, he is likely to think that it is okay to feel that away about another human being. I have no idea what her options will be after this. I don't know if redemption is the right word, but I do believe in second (or more chances). I have to. I am a nurse.

    Quote from BBFRN
    Forgive the Superman reference here, but 'with great power, comes great responsibility.'
    Girl, you might be working on your PhD, but I have an uber PhD in nerd....you are referring to Spiderman.
    Last edit by ivanh3 on Apr 17, '09
  13. Visit  BBFRN profile page
    Quote from libnat
    It's vague because it is subjective, one persons prefessional is anothers.......

    Like I seeing nothing wrong with what she wrote while you do.
    But would you WRITE what she wrote on a public blog?

    And puhlease...Yoder is former military. She is well-versed in codes of conduct.

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