Nursing Student Blog Lawsuit - page 15

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  1. Visit  libnat profile page
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    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Last time a student took a gun to campus he shot up a bunch of nursing instructors....
    and......

    Many conservatives believe those instructor also should have been allowed to have guns to defend themselves as well as other students and then he would have been stopped before shooting up a "bunch" of them.
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  2. Visit  BBFRN profile page
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    My point was that given the fact that she:

    a.) Frequently blogs about her guns
    b.) Feels it's "dumb" that she can't carry her gun on campus
    c.) Seems to have an anger issue, in regard to patients, faculty, and fellow classmates

    It seems logical that she would be frisked before being told she was being expelled. They were erring on the side of safety, which is a good idea these days. I doubt it was some kind of "left-winged" conspiracy, as Yoder contends.

    They were protecting themselves, and the students. And they managed to do that without guns, as is their right.
    Last edit by BBFRN on Apr 16, '09
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  3. Visit  cardiacRN2006 profile page
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    Quote from libnat
    and......

    Many conservatives believe those instructor also should have been allowed to have guns to defend themselves as well as other students and then he would have been stopped before shooting up a "bunch" of them.

    Keep trying sister.

    I don't care if conservatives want this, or she wants that. (I guess it's ok for teachers to kill students, or students to kill teachers? If neither had a gun, then what would they do???)

    All that matters is that Nina Yoder will never be a nurse. And hopefully, she will lose her CNA as well. She cannot be trusted to care from fragile humanoids...I mean creeps...eeks!....I mean, people.
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  4. Visit  FireStarterRN profile page
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    Quote from BBFRN
    My point was that given the fact that she:

    a.) Frequently blogs about her guns
    b.) Feels it's "dumb" that she can't carry her gun on campus
    c.) Seems to have an anger issue, in regard to patients, faculty, and fellow classmates

    It seems logical that she would be frisked before being told she was being expelled. They were erring on the side of safety, which is a good idea these days. I doubt it was some kind of "left-winged" conspiracy, as Yoder contends.

    They were protecting themselves, and the students. And they managed to do that without guns, as is their right.
    Unfortunately, these days with the trend toward violence by guns in the schools, the administration was only being prudent. Can you imagine the public recriminations they would have had if there had been a shooting by this disgruntled student and they had ignored the warning signs posted on her blog? The media would have had a a heyday with that and some school administrator would have lost his/her job.
    Suz_808, Multicollinearity, BBFRN, and 1 other like this.
  5. Visit  VickyRN profile page
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    I'm just glad this student from hades is out of the program, hopefully never to return. I'm sure the public in the Louisville area also breathes a sigh of relief. Who would want such a person taking care of their loved ones?
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  6. Visit  Chapis profile page
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    yes, she had the freedom of speech just like we all do, but it doesn't meant there are reprecatutions of our actions, definitely she'll see hers. she broke the university's code of conduct as she wasn't professional about it in her blog, along with other things like discribing the pt that people in that area know who she is talking about. she should get punished-as the pt is hurting right now, as the attention is heading towards her as well.
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  7. Visit  ImMrBill3, RN profile page
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    As has been stated already freedom of speech is not an issue here. In no way has she been prevented from saying anything.

    When one becomes a nursing student one accepts the position of becoming a part of the profession of nursing. As a student one is a representative of nursing in general and of the School of Nursing one attends. This involves making a VOLUNTARY commitment to adhere to the code of honor of the school one attends and more importantly to follow the CODE OF ETHICS for nurses. When this person published material stating she was a nursing student at a particular school she was not speaking as an unassociated individual but as a representative member of the school and of nursing. As such her speech is required to adhere to the Code of Ethics for Nurses. I don't think her statements represent professionalism, caring, respect, compassion or advocacy for the patient and protection of the patient's rights.

    I also refer specifically to Provision 5 interpretive statement 5.3.

    This person has the right to say whatever she wishes, however she does not have a right to be a member of the profession of nursing particularly when she disregards the Code of Ethics. Similarly the school has a right to expel a student who represents them in a manner that is in violation of the honor code and policy of the school.

    As for other nurses, I strongly suggest a thorough reading of the Code of Ethics. This is what we agree to when becoming and continuing to practice as nurses. This profession has a great deal of responsibility and being a nurse is more than just a job.
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  8. Visit  libnat profile page
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    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    All that matters is that Nina Yoder will never be a nurse.
    Don't be so sure.
  9. Visit  FireStarterRN profile page
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    Quote from libnat
    Don't be so sure.
    You certainly have taken a personal interest in this case.
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  10. Visit  Anxious Patient profile page
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    this is kind of interesting. from a legal blog:

    "the basic law is that if you create copyright material, something you write or type into a computer, you take photographs, you do cartoons, you potentially create film, if that is created in the course of your employment then the assumption is that that belongs to your employer, so that doesn't have to be written down by your employer."

    social networking sites and the material a person creates for them do not exist in a vacuum, they do interact with working life, but that most users do not realise this.

    (employees) may think that social networking is something which doesn't affect their work relationship, but it certainly does."
    http://www.out-law.com/page-8284
  11. Visit  libnat profile page
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    Quote from FireStarterRN
    You certainly have taken a personal interest in this case.
    Of course, it has all the trappings of things which interest me.

    My school, my degree/program, administrator (those with power) vs student (those without), gun policy, unwarrented body search, freedom of online speech, selective enforcment of a vague code.
  12. Visit  cardiacRN2006 profile page
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    Quote from libnat
    Don't be so sure.
    Oh, I'm sure. See, her BON will know about her soon enough. Plus, I have a funny feeling that whatever this girl does in her life will result in her shooting her own self in the foot.

    Oh gees, more gun analogies.



    libnat, you are either Nina herself (very likely) or you know her personally. Please, we aren't stupid. Take a look back at our posts. We've known for a while now...
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  13. Visit  libnat profile page
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    lol, okay.
    Last edit by BBFRN on Apr 17, '09 : Reason: TOS

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