Nursing student alleges discrimination - page 11

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This is very sad as we really need more Chinese speaking nurses here. What is even sadder is that as an immigrant, I am all to familiar with the xenophobia here in NZ. English is my first language and I came here to work in an... Read More


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    I agree. I would have no problem with a male nurse UNLESS I was in a very compromised state, needing total care. Then I would prefer and insist on a female nurse. I did have a male nurse, ONCE, who attempted to insert a F/C...The special word here is ATTEMPT. He never got it in. Next time I will insist the nurse is female. I know females sometimes can have problems insterting as well...but at least it is not so embarrising if they fail to get it in.
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    Guys, if I'm so sick I need to be hospitalized, I'm not going to "check under the hood" to see which flavor of nurse I have, I'm just going to want a good one.

    I'm the first to admit my knowledge of Australia comes from the works of Nevil Shute, which is probably like saying my knowledge of Chicago comes from watching "The Untouchables." And my knowledge of NZ is pretty much limited to watching Lord of the Rings and thinking, "how pretty!" But come on, we're nurses. For the 12 hours we're together, my patients don't have color (unless they're in for something like sickle cell crisis). I admit there are cultural things I've run into that I went "what on earth...?" but we just rolled with it.

    I mean, jeez, come on, we're nurses, let's just do the job....
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    And if I am having a F/C put in, I want a female to do it. I agree there is no color when I am dealing with patients. I take care of all people. I live in America, so am not sure what is going on in Australia or NZ. I think most men assume when they are in the hospital they will have a female nurse. They are used to females doing all kinds of nursing care on them. More men are coming into the field and that is great, but they have to realize in all reality there are some cultures where women do NOT want a man to be touching them if they need extra care done on them. We must repect that. Men must repect that. Would I want a man feeling my Fundus after childbirth...NO I would not. Would I want a man doing a digital disimpaction on me, again, NO I would NOT. If they wish to change a dressing on my leg, arm, etc...go for it. But I will not allow a man to do very personal things on my body while in the hospital. If I was putting a catheter into a male and he wanted a male nurse to do it, that would be fine with me. Whatever the patient is more comfortable with should be how it is. I have left the hospital nursing field, NEVER to return......I will forever work psychiatric out in the community. NO F/C, IV, or medically sick clients. I talk people down from jumping off buildings and bridges. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. Psych is my passsion and I believe all nurses play a role. Some love the hospital setting..(God knows why), and some enjoy other jobs in the nursing field. All different types of nurses are needed in all different areas.
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    This post was disturbing to me, because I have been in nursing school with people who graduated and had poor communication skills. I have also worked with licensed professionals who had poor communication skills. The same standard should be used for everybody.
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    I actually have a friend who is Filipina. She has her BSN from her Country. She was taking her Master program here in America. I have a BSN. She sent me one of her school papers to critique. OMG, it looked like it was written by a 5th grader. I am not kidding. The miss spelled words, sentence structure were all wrong. I RE-DID her paper. She had no clue regarding the mistakes she made. YES, she got that Masters, but I guess I should have gotten one right along with her. I did mostly ALL her papers....or rather I critiqued them for her the entire 2 years of her school. I must say she is an EXCELLENT RN but her writing skills are horrific. While I was critiquing the papers I DID try to help her learn proper sentence structure, spelling, and punctuations. Hopefully she has learned a little bit.
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    LuLu2008 - I think that is the whole point. Clamping down on poor communication before patient safety is affected. The Nursing Council in NZ has received many complaints re: communication issues. I guess they are putting the hard word on the Universities - re standards. Rightfully so!!!
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    It's going to be hard to elevate the standards when the actual enforcers are not very good communicators!
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    Just a comment on male nurses doing personal care (F/C, impactions, etc) on female patients. I have been asked several times to insert a F/C after one of my female coworkers failed to complete the procedure. I don't want to brag but I am pretty good at inserting catheters. If a female objects, no problem. They can go without or we can try to find another female nurse who can give it a try. I would think that we would all be over this kind of thing. I haven't had a prostate exam by a male doctor in years. My female docs have always done well. Please no flames. I would always honor patient prefrences in such personal matters.
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    So if a female patient objects to you putting in a catheter...she can just go without????? Is that what I am hearing? Maybe you are putting in catheters in 80 year old females with dementia. They are the ones who would not care at all. Then again, if they object...maybe you can just put a diaper on them...and she can go without a foley....hahaha
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    This thread has veered off-topic for several pages. And, back and forth barbs making it personal.

    Closed for review.
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