Quote from Nakgirl84
It would be nice if the state colleges would accept more students for BSN but with the economy right now, students are just happy to get accepted to the college in general. Every year it seems state colleges are cutting down classes and the amount of students they accept and then raising the amount for tuition. At Sac State, my friend got accepted after much
uncertainty, and then from there, he was finally able to get accepted into their BSN program. I don't believe they were going to accept those who weren't already Sac State students like they did in the past before this whole economic mess came about.
I guess it stung a bit when you said the nursing profession is being handed to HS dropouts... I know you didn't specifically say or mean that all current nursing students are HS dropouts but it just kind of irked me. I don't think there's any problem with a HS dropout wanting to better their life.
I feel it's an unfair, somewhat elitist thing to say about HS dropouts is all. I'm not sure if you meant it that way or not, hopefully not
I know I can't be alone in feeling this way.
I work at a local hospital and a lot of my friends there who are nurses or are going into nursing were HS graduates, as well as I. Although, I do know a lot of nursing students who want that ADN and will be happy there. Not me though, one day, I want my doctorate in nursing, maybe teach one day! And no, I will not eat my young
So before I or anybody else who shares my dream want to embark on this journey, it would be nice to get our foot in the door and get that ADN first if BSN isn't available. (I just got in after four years of waiting so I'm still doing my happy dance
Also, an example of an allied health profession that makes less money than nursing but still has to go through a two year program are rad techs. In the state of CA, median hourly wage for RN is 40.22 while it's 30.43 for rad techs according to labor market info on CA EDD website. Least educated? What about medical assistants, phlebotomists, nurse's aides, ER techs, respiratory therapists, etc? They may not make as much but they don't have to go through as much schooling. I still don't think they're the butt of jokes around the hospital. Just us housekeepers
Again, I can only speak about the area that I live in, but being an RN here, you are most definitely not
the laughing stock, you do
have lots of prestige and for the most part, nurses are actually respected by other people :redpinkhe
You misunderstand my letter entirely. The health care professionals who I am comparing nursing to, is the health care professionals who require at least a Bachelors degree as entry into practice. PT, OT, SLP. RTs are an Associates degree.Period. There is no Bachelors degree in Respiratory therapy, Radiology technology.
In the military, RNs have at least a Bachelors Degree, and are OFFICERS, as are PT, OT, SLP, and Dieticians. Respiratory Therapy, all forms of X-Ray techs, and LPNs are ENLISTED. Do you get the difference? The military does.
Nurses need to see themselves as OFFICERS! That is why we need to have a Bachelors Degree as entry into practice.
PT ASSISTANTS, have a TWO year Associates degree as entry into practice. RECREATIONAL THERAPY, who spend their career in the travel industry, Recreational Therapy for children, etc, has a BACHELORS DEGREE AS ENTRY INTO PRACTICE!!
Doesn't it seem strange, the RNs, who have patients' lives in their hands, can enter the profession with a Diploma, or a two year Associates Degree? Who do think is behind the fighting to increase the entry into practice? Is doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who is behind the fighting to maintain the status quo.
Folks, the PTB, are terrifed that nurses will one day join into a single entry into practice, of a Bachelors Degree, speak with one voice, and take over and control of our profession. Wresting it from the Insurance Industry, Hospital Administrators, and Management.
We can then INSIST on staffing ratios, higher pay and better benefits, and most of all, TAKE CONTROL OF OUR PROFESSION!
We need to take control of our professsion from the bean counters, and do what is best for nursing.
And for the record, the public does not respect nurses, or we would not be treated the way we do. They may have voted us the Number One trusted professionals, but wait until we take control of our profession- demand higher pay, take control of patient management, and the daily hospital routine, limiting visiting hours so they do not interfere with patient care, no more turing patient care areas into a campground, refuse to put up with verbal abuse, and call police on threatening visitors, the tide would change.
Also, my statement about professional practice being given to HS dropouts, I mean the practice of taking people off the street, and turning them into nurses aides, Med Techs- giving them the PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE of passing medications to patients in nursing homes and ALFs, inserting NG Tubes, foleys, THAT is what I was talking about. I was not referring to RTs, and others in the hospitals, they are not professionals, they are considered techs- see my above statement about the military. Nurses need to start to see themselves as Officers, not enlisted. And realize that the others are enlisted, and conduct yourselves appropriately. In other words, nurses (officers), call the shots, not the techs (enlisted).
Why would you think/interpret, my statements, to think that I meant nursing students? I cannot fathom how you could interpret that to mean nursing students. Look around you, in hospitals, nursing homes, ALFs doctors offices, etc, Nursing professional practice is being given to the minimally educated individuals. That is what I am talking about.
I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why you thought that I was referring to present day nursing students as HS dropouts. And yes, I think that it is wonderful if HS students aspire to better themselves, but not at the expense of the Nursing profession.
JMHO and my NY $0.02.
Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
Somewhere in the PACNW