Nursing Schools Rejected 41,000 Qualified Applicants Over Lack of Educators

Nice idea but I don't think it would work since programs are different overseas and qualified foreign nurses would just work in hospitals for the higher pay.

Speaking from experience with foreign professors and NOT meant to hurt anyones feelings or make anyone mad....

Recently my professor left because no one could understand her English. It wasn't that she was a bad professor. But when it came to explaining, it was many times, difficult to understand her. Speaking as a student and having experienced a foreign professor, this is not the way to go. Then again, not all foreign professors are going to have a language barrier of some sort. Teachers in all areas are paid WAY UNDER what they are DESERVING and this is the root cause.

It's a shame the government can't figure this out. Or, they could care less. I think it is the later.

Want to get the best nursing instructors into the classroom? Boost the pay. Period.

I respectfully disagree with the arguments that we do not value higher education and that teachers in all areas are undervalued. Take a look at the salaries paid to professors in other professional programs. At the public institutions in my home state, for example, law professors earn in the low six figures, while nursing profs with Ph.Ds are earning in the high forties. Why? Last time I checked, there was no shortage of lawyers -- and no looming crisis in the litigation industry. (Please note that I am not saying that law profs shouldn't be paid that much. I'm saying that they are paid a competitive wage. So are business and engineering professors. But the nurse who would teach a profession dominated by women is not. Why?) We're willing to pay competitive salaries to people who teach students how to turn a profit.

We wouldn't suggest bringing in foreign workers to take away jobs in other industries and thereby keep the wages depressed. Why do that to nursing instructors?

You don't have to take my word for it. Take a look at the plan unveiled by Idaho's Republican governor. He wants to boost nursing faculty salaries as part of a $42 million plan to stave off the nursing shortage in his home state.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/103/story/58216.html

If I sound frustrated, I am. I have a fantastic nursing professor this semester, a 25-year critical care veteran with a Ph.D. She gives 120 percent every day. She's worth a lot more than $47,000.

I am borrowing a total of 15 thousand dollars to attend a 3-semester second-degree program. When I finish, I expect to find a job, and pay that back, after I pay off my mortgage, which won't be immediate. I do not see why anyone would complain about student loan debt when you can pay it back, at a reasonable rate, while earning a decent salary. Why do people complain about student loan debt? I would love to get a faculty job somewhere, because I could still work a couple of days a week at nights, so my income would still be substantial. What's to complain about?

And depending on your location, sometimes you can be totally qualified and still not find a job.

I have a MSN in nursing administration. During my coursework, I decided I wanted to teach, so my electives are in curriculum design and a teaching practicum. I was encouraged to apply for a teaching position at my school (same one I got my BSN from) but when I graduated, they didn't have any peds spots open. My two other classmates from the admin track were hired. My dean said to get a PhD, and she would hire me.

I started the PhD, then stopped when we had to move across country. While in school I did teach one semester of peds clinicals through a community college/hospital hybrid program and I loved it. I have also guest lectured before.

Now I'm in a new smaller city, with 2 progams in town that I can't break into. I worked exclusively in NICU and PICU and have precepted extensively. I just switched to adult ICU with the idea that this experience would put me on an additional level. Money won't be as much of an issue as we've been living on my salary exclusively for 3 years while my husband pursues a graduate degree. When he graduates, our income will more than double. Also, I'm looking at continuing my PhD.

So if I can't get a teaching job within the next 2 years, I'm just about to give up!

That is amazing, and that is about the time that I got rejected. but lucky me, I found one that had a waiting list. waited 1 year 8 months to start but hey now I am an RN.

what I don't understand--- is when you are qualified-- you have the desire--- you apply 5x to the school and they still don't take you in! while some people get in with scholarships and interview but fail or quit during the first semester! I find that unfair!

My foreign nursing instructors consisted of heavily accented, and or, former physicians who couldn't make the cut here and became nurses. Totally unreasonable-nurses with physician temperments. Their way of looking at questions was from the point of a physician, definately not a nurse. I believe that was a worse way for an untried, non-experienced nurse to learn.

LETTERS, HOW I HATE THEM! Have a huge business background with million dollar budgets. Have had 50+ employees at any given time....yet I spend time in classrooms with nursing instructors who have not been in the field in years...who don't have a clue of how business runs...who I find it difficult to believe ever practiced hands on nursing and who drive me nuts! YET, they have letters....gives them the right to teach. Who hires teachers, OH THAT'S RIGHT...PEOPLE WITH LETTERS BEHIND THEIR NAMES!

Worst yet are other disciplines teaching nursing-currently have an RT who got his MBA....want to kill myself every week listening to his stupid a$$ talk! He's a dumba$$! Then there was the amazing (in his own mind) physician for advanced pathophysiology, that kept saying things like "you nurses, wouldn't know this", another one I had issues listening to.

I believe many nurses regardless of level would be excellent with onsite clinicals and for lectures. Just because you can read or write a book-does not a teacher make! When I think back to the code simulations that were run THEY WERE HORRIBLE! Even then I'd ask suggest the instructors run "real" code so that the students could see the synergy that occurs. They never did....so not informative. Just idiot students who'd never done it stumbling over each other with a dummy. I had great instructors and instructors who lectured but didn't understand their own material. I have serious problems with that.

Anyway, in school possibly to teach..I will continue to work ER, but as per diem if I can get a teaching job. The hassles of 13 hours shifts are wearing me down, as is the continual high acuities and lack of administrative support for staffing and low ratios. I need to watch my license, if they won't. I would also like to help prepare students for their future of patient advocacy. Especially the young ones. Without a backbone you are dead meat!

Geez, I could go on forever....sorry.

Maisy

PS Northern NJ nursing shortage a thing of the past....don't expect anyone without a BSN getting a job this year.