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Apr 09, 2009, 03:34 PM
 Re: Nursing market cools, new grads have a tough time finding jobs Originally Posted by hope3456  Hospitals and nursing schools need to work together.......it seems we have a case of 'the right hand not knowing what the left is doing.' Nursing schools HAVE greatly increased the #'s of students they take every year, and now the hospitals can't hire them all.
Nursing schools need to only train as many nurses as the area hospitals are willing to hire. I am saying this b/c so many new grad RN's are 'nontraditional' students who are not particularly interested in relocating.
Unfortunately nursing school, like all schools, is a for profit business. I am sure the nursing faculty is aware of the job situation, but they are not going to stop taking guaranteed money from the unsuspecting students. In my area we have schools charging $40,000 a year in tuition, yet there are no jobs for the new grads. Also we as the consumer must do our homework and understand the job market. Nursing is/was a big second career meal ticket for bunches of people. Of course the stories of nursing being recession proof qwas about as accurate as Madoffs investment returns, but there were/are a slew of people still believing the pipe dream. Nursing is still a cash cow for many institutions of higher learning, and they are going to milk that cow until we, the consumer, wise up and realize that nursing is job that is not as secure as it is made out to be. I am not discouraging people from going to nursing school, but please dont be shocked when you are loaded with student loan debt and cant find employment after school. The writing has been on the wall for a while about the slowdown in nursing employment, we just refuse to read said wall.
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Apr 09, 2009, 09:09 PM
Re: Nursing market cools, new grads have a tough time finding jobs
All of those graduate nurses who are worried about not getting their 'dream job' right out of school, ah... get real and get into the trenches and learn the profession like the rest of us did, from the ground up. Whatever happened to paying your dues?
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Apr 09, 2009, 09:39 PM
Re: Nursing market cools, new grads have a tough time finding jobs
My daughter graduates in a few weeks from a BSN program here in the Midwest and she and her classmates have been looking all over. She has had several interviews here in oHio and has several possibilities locally and one definite offer in Virginia ans one probable in North Carolina, but none are in the area she wanted (ICU).
People do infact go into a profession for the employment--and if we must work, it should be in an area we think we will find the most satisfying and challenging.
My daughter told me tonight how I always told her "you will always have work as a Nurse", and how frustrated and upset she and her classmates are because they are not seeing that as the case right now. 
When I graduated in May1984, there were few jobs, and I did not get full-time in an acute setting until September of that year.
I tell her that it may suck right now, and I really would rather she find a job here near me, and at the hospital she has worked at as a PCA and Unit Secretary for the last four years, but not many openings to be had here.
But the pendulum will most certainly swing back someday.  | | No. 68 |
Apr 10, 2009, 09:13 AM
Re: Nursing market cools, new grads have a tough time finding jobs Originally Posted by lpnjoe60 All of those graduate nurses who are worried about not getting their 'dream job' right out of school, ah... get real and get into the trenches and learn the profession like the rest of us did, from the ground up. Whatever happened to paying your dues?
This is classic "nurse eating their young". Sadly, the first time I experience it.
But on the off chance you didn't mean it that way or understand what we are trying to express: we aren't looking for dream jobs. We are aware of the need and are even more willing to start at the groundlevel, personally I want to start there, so I don't kill people later! We are talking about the lack of those new grad 'due-paying' groundfloor positions. Hospital recruiters saying, "we just throw out your resumes".
This thread is about the economy and the reality of job-hunting, media misrepresentation, not new grads lack of humility or ambition.
It hurts to be kicked when we are down.
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Apr 10, 2009, 10:00 AM
Re: Nursing market cools, new grads have a tough time finding jobs Originally Posted by AtomicWoman I am getting pretty annoyed at the nursing schools that keep pumping out hundreds and hundreds of grads, while the prospect of getting a job gets dimmer and dimmer. There should be a consumer protection law in effect that forces schools to give prospective students hard statistics on what percentage of their grads got new jobs in what fields BEFORE the prospective student plunks down the big bucks!
From what I have heard community colleges do try to keep up with the market and train students in technical programs for what there is demand for.....they did think that there was this HUGE demand for nurses (fueled by the news media and hospital associations) so many CC's did expand their programs. I bet CC's will start to scale back their programs. Also (my guess is)that in the past 5 years (approx) they HAVE produced more nurses so there just isn't as much as a need now, that combined with the economic situation.
When I started nsg school in 2003 the local hospital had 5 pages of jobs for RN's. They didn't care about experience, they were taking anyone. then the local nsg school doubled their admits and everyone was flocking to nsg school. The CC in the neighboring town also started a nsg program and the University in the same town started an accellerated program, so in that region alone there were about triple # of RN's being produced.
I have since relocated from that community but I checked the job postings with that hospital a couple weeks ago and there were 14 jobs......not open to new grads and many were PRN or part time.
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