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from oramar
Old Jul 06, 2009, 04:51 PM

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It would be great if the BONs started going after the license of management people who permit the bad staffing that results in the errors. Right now they just do what everyone does and that is blame the person that made the mistake.
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No. 11
from oramar
Old Jul 06, 2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by caliotter3 View Post
Whenever a person makes allegations on their way out the door or when they are down the street, it detracts from the credibility of the charges, whether they are valid or not. One wonders why these people don't bring their complaints while they are still getting paychecks every pay period. How long do these people choose to look in the other direction? Of course, it always coincides with the loss of their job, that they suddenly get conscience attacks, while everything was honky dory when their paycheck was showing up.
I can't support that statement because I know the moment that you complain is the moment you are shown the door. So of course it appears that the termination caused the complaint when actually the complaint is what caused the termination.
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No. 12
from Andrew, RN
Old Jul 06, 2009, 11:07 PM

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"Complain and lose your job" Exactly why so many things get swept under the rug and kept a secret.
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No. 13
from NRSKarenRN
Old Jul 07, 2009, 08:29 AM
Updated Jul 07, 2009 at 08:37 AM by NRSKarenRN

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Nursing boards typically do not get involved in employee vs management issues. Instead they focus on PRACTICE aspect of individual nurse in relation to state nursing laws. I saw nothing in news item that PA/NJ/DE BON would get involved.

Wage and hour issues WILL result in quick visit from state DOL: Dept of Labor, if can substantiate in report sent.

Hospital patient care issues need to be brought to state dept of health (DOH) that liceneses facility, including how staffing affects patient care.

Nurses complaining to wrong healthcare group...
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No. 14
from morte
Old Jul 07, 2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NRSKarenRN View Post
Nursing boards typically do not get involved in employee vs management issues. Instead they focus on PRACTICE aspect of individual nurse in relation to state nursing laws. I saw nothing in news item that PA/NJ/DE BON would get involved.

Wage and hour issues WILL result in quick visit from state DOL: Dept of Labor, if can substantiate in report sent.

Hospital patient care issues need to be brought to state dept of health (DOH) that liceneses facility, including how staffing affects patient care.

Nurses complaining to wrong healthcare group...
perhaps the report to the board is all WE know about at this time....and perhaps it was d/t expections that were out of scope of practice....
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No. 15
Old Jul 08, 2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Indy View Post
Maybe everything wasn't hunky dory, and the email exhibits are to show the internal discussion of the stuff they then complained about after losing their jobs. It's entirely possible that the nurses who tried to help correct what they saw as problems in the workforce, lost their jobs as a consequence of trying to do something.

Anyhow. I read the blood draws issue as, they are having to draw morning labs instead of lab doing the AM draws. I can see where that would put a kink in the end of your shift - especially if you're understaffed.

Hello this so true.. today tell the true about wrongdoing at your hospital . remember this it usually the hard honest workers who leave One day and the one breaking the rules are still there. I was working a coworker also a nurse was jogging in the unit because she had no patients in triage and she was not on break, she was on a new diet... I was trying to do my heavy assignment patient load job and she keep jogging in the unit hallway.getting in may way and the other nurses and patients way. and believe it or not the manager was on the unit and saw her jogging .and nothing was done. What is wrong with this picture. I was brought up to give an honest day work to my employer and have pride at the end of the day . The public needs to be educated and aware of unsafe conditions and rude behaviors at there hospitals.. I joined a RN union...bought my 99 .00 liability insurance because the hospitals will not protect the nurse .so wake up protect your self... As a whole nurse need to to unite....wake up nurses before it is to late . the truth is always the best way
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Old Jul 08, 2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rockwell108 View Post
Hello this so true.. today tell the true about wrongdoing at your hospital . remember this it usually the hard honest workers who leave One day and the one breaking the rules are still there. I was working a coworker also a nurse was jogging in the unit because she had no patients in triage and she was not on break, she was on a new diet... I was trying to do my heavy assignment patient load job and she keep jogging in the unit hallway.getting in may way and the other nurses and patients way. and believe it or not the manager was on the unit and saw her jogging .and nothing was done. What is wrong with this picture. I was brought up to give an honest day work to my employer and have pride at the end of the day . The public needs to be educated and aware of unsafe conditions and rude behaviors at there hospitals.. I joined a RN union...bought my 99 .00 liability insurance because the hospitals will not protect the nurse .so wake up protect your self... As a whole nurse need to to unite....wake up nurses before it is to late . the truth is always the best way
It is important that nurses put the problem in perspective and turn to the correct regulators when there are issues, however. One nurse disrupting the unit is not a BON, OSHA, or Health Department issue, as others have said above. Going up through the chain of command, and then to the appropriate higher authorities, is what works.
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No. 17
Old Jul 08, 2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dlatimer View Post
For what it's worth...I complained about short staffing and was fired in two days. Then they filed a complaint with the state board because I wasn't getting my job done in a timely manner. Most people just quit. It's possible this is one of the unspoken rules of nursing...complain and risk losing your job. The hospital was Research Medical Center, Kansas City, MO (HCA owned). The reasons for firing me was all related to not having enough people to answer the phones, call the doctor and try to keep the patient alive by myself. It tends to get more stressful than is necessary in those conditions. BTW, I told my supervisor I was going to quit as soon as possible 3 days before they fired me.

I would be happy to share the complaint information with anyone.

my 1.3 cents
hello, Im so sorry this happen to you ,but this happens alot to good caring nurses who want to do the right thing . I would like to hear the complaint information from you .. there is a nursing moving going on""
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Old Jul 08, 2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Teresag_CNS View Post
It is important that nurses put the problem in perspective and turn to the correct regulators when there are issues, however. One nurse disrupting the unit is not a BON, OSHA, or Health Department issue, as others have said above. Going up through the chain of command, and then to the appropriate higher authorities, is what works.
Hello I agree that one nurse disruping the unit is not a BON, OSHA ,or Health department issue,this is one of many issues, there are many things that go on due to poor management and poor communicating ,I agree with you going up the chain of command is the proper way but the end result maybe surprising.
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No. 19
from DolceVita
Old Jul 08, 2009, 01:49 PM

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"That nurses were required to draw blood from patients without proper protection from blood-borne diseases and in ways that might render lab tests invalid."

I am confused and possibly a bit ignorant...what can they mean by this? Not provided gloves, sharps containers & specimen bags? Reusing blood draw supplies? I don't get it.
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