Nursing 2006 Salary Survey finds salaries leveling off - page 4

nursing: volume 36(10) october 2006 p 46-51 salary survey cheryl l. mee, rn, bc, cmsrn, msn nursing 2006 editor-in-chief over 1,100 nurses responded to our salary survey published in... Read More

  1. by   Pumpkin1621
    Quote from Shamira Aizza
    It's possible men are less afraid to negotiate.

    I have negotiated every wage I've received, starting out with my first full-time nursing job. I also would negotiate my shift to provide options; i.e. if you pay me this much, the only weekend shift I can work is Sunday. For my first nursing job, the interviewer said there was a lot of competition for my job, and some applicants would accept minimum wage just to get their foot in the door; I said they'd get minumum wage work from a minumum wage employee. I got the job.

    I renegotiated my wage again about 3 years later with the same company...successfully. I also would negotiate wages for a particular shift...i.e. they wanted me to work OT a certain day, or transfer to another dept for a shift, then they had to make it work my while. I would require that they pay me for 16 hours of OT even if I was only working 12 hours.

    When I took another job, I interviewed at several places, and made the wage a front-burner issue, and when the offers started coming, I would show them the offers I was receiving and tell them this was a key issue in my decision.

    It will continue to be a determinant; my current employer just eliminated incentive pay for extra shifts. Obviously incentive pay had a purpose...to encourage people to come to work on their day OFF! Immediately after, the phone started ringing for us to come in and cover shifts; I decided that if there was no need for incentive, then they really didn't have that much need for me to come in. The moment the weekend differential pay is reduced is the moment I walk. That's the way it should be.

    If male RN's are making more, it isn't their fault, and they should not be targeted for aggression...even verbally. And if you think about it, it makes no sense that a female-dominated profession would pay male RN's more money.

    MKZ should be embarrassed about what she wrote; she essentially suggested that women are incapable of advancing nursing as a profession without male dominance in the industry.
  2. by   nurse^girl
    22y female florida lpns
  3. by   sayrah_85
    I guess u'll appreciate your salaries better if you work here in my country... minimum wage is 320 php. so that's about 6 dollars and 50 cents a day..
  4. by   verons
    that just made me so sad... i am currently working in dubai, u.a.e. and in the process of migrating to us. we are not paid here per hour but per month $2,500 net + housing allowance $18,000/year + water & electricity allowance $1.500/year + transportation allowance $2,000/year + educational allowance $2,000/child/year (max of 3 children) and all tax free. a lot of americans and europeans are working here and they seemed to adore dubai. they have asked me a million times why i like to move to us... personal reasons though... so does that mean that it's better to stay here? hope that salary scale will be lifted or at least increase in us? the only advantages of working here are apart from a tax free country, commodities are cheap, safe - very minimal crime rates and very modernized country. i still am yearning to work in us.
  5. by   bluiis923
    OMG Verons!
    Stay where you are!!!!
    Geez, maybe I'll come work with you.....
  6. by   verons
    Quote from bluiis923
    omg verons!
    stay where you are!!!!
    geez, maybe i'll come work with you.....
    for some reason bluiis923, it's good to work here though. my family liked it here but i'd still prefer to work in us for really good reasons.
  7. by   hirami
    Is it true that lpn nurses are not in demand or will lpn courses in a few years be non-existant?
  8. by   R0xyg4l
    I really don't understand in a female dominated field how men are still getting paid more (no offense!)...
  9. by   Iowa RN
    Come work in Iowa and you will find some of the lowest wages anywhere. I have done both nursing management, floor nursing, and office nursing. I have never made more than 45,000/year. And this is with 10 years experience.
  10. by   NoahNS
    Quote from verons
    that just made me so sad... i am currently working in dubai, u.a.e. and in the process of migrating to us. we are not paid here per hour but per month $2,500 net + housing allowance $18,000/year + water & electricity allowance $1.500/year + transportation allowance $2,000/year + educational allowance $2,000/child/year (max of 3 children) and all tax free. a lot of americans and europeans are working here and they seemed to adore dubai. they have asked me a million times why i like to move to us... personal reasons though... so does that mean that it's better to stay here? hope that salary scale will be lifted or at least increase in us? the only advantages of working here are apart from a tax free country, commodities are cheap, safe - very minimal crime rates and very modernized country. i still am yearning to work in us.
    certainly not having to pay taxes makes a tremendous difference... but when you add up all the "allowances" and monthly wages it doesn't come out to that much more... except for the tax exemption ($53,500 + $2,000 more/child [$26.75-$29.75/hr]) i don't know what the cost of living in dubai is, but i think one might be able to struggle by on $89,000/yr ($43/hr) in california.
  11. by   evaruth
    Quote from MKZ
    I have been working for four months in a non-unionized hospital in California, I started out at 43.00 dollars/hr. My mortgage is 3500.00 a month. My salary is not sufficient. Nursing is a poorly paid profession. If it was largely a male dominated role, nurses would have been paid alot more a long time ago. And ratios would be a God given right.
    I totally agree with you. If nurses are in such high demand why do we get paid poorly and don't get good health benefits. If u work for a hospital u get good benefits but get paid more poorly. I have looked for a company that gives good benefits and have found none. So we don't get paid good and don't get good benefits. How SAD!
  12. by   MrChicagoRN
    Quote from miss arron
    one thing i found interesting is that even though they're the minority, male nurses made more than female nurses....

    i guess females just always get the short end of the stick when it comes to salaries

    Or maybe it's because, overall, men are more likely to work fulltime, less likely to take a year or three off to raise kids; more likely to go into a high tech field vs public health or school nursing; more likely to chase the $$$ than stay in a likable but low paying job.

    If you compared cohort men & women, I doubt there'd be a difference.
  13. by   happybunny1970
    Quote from evaruth
    I totally agree with you. If nurses are in such high demand why do we get paid poorly and don't get good health benefits. If u work for a hospital u get good benefits but get paid more poorly. I have looked for a company that gives good benefits and have found none. So we don't get paid good and don't get good benefits. How SAD!
    It's so funny that you mention that... My husband was in the Navy from 89-97, and left just when they were starting to charge for dependent healthcare (he was a Corpsman, working in the hospital performing medical testing). When he left, he took a job at University of Maryland Medical Center. He had the BEST healthcare benefits there! The position was one of transition, to ease him back into civilian life, and when he found another job a year and a half later, we actually stayed put until after the birth of our second child, because had we moved and delivered at his new employer's hospital it would have cost us a couple thousand dollars out of pocket. At UMMC, the entire prenatal/delivery/postnatal was FREE. I didn't pay a single cent for ANYTHING -- when I asked for a copy of the statement, just out of curiosity, it showed total charges, then the next line was "UMMC Employee" and a subtraction of the total. Geez, even at the Naval hospital I had to pay $9 for my meals when I delivered our first child!

    In that respect, I wish we could have stayed where we were -- $5 doctor visits, $3 prescriptions... When he went to negotiate with this new employer and they started talking benefits, they requested a copy of his healthplan, and said that 'can't possibly be right.' So we sent it to them. Bottom line, they couldn't compare, so they held the job for a few months until we could travel.

    Since then, I went to Nursing school and entered the field as well. Between the two of us, we've worked in 3 different hospitals in this area, and the healthcare benefits go from bad to worse. We, like everyone else, thought that if we worked in healthcare we'd get the best healthcare benefits -- not so! Actually, the best benefits from a consumer point of view in this area is Goodyear, Wal-Mart, and a grocery chain employees. Of course, the hospitals write off TONS of money for these contracts, all they while gouging their own employees for utilizing the same services.

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