Nurses to get 20 percent raise (California) - page 5

LONG BEACH-Long Beach Memorial Medical Center nurses will receive pay raises averaging 20 percent over three years under a tentative agreement that also features elements to better assist nurses with... Read More

  1. by   Sheri257
    Quote from socalirn
    please do stay in TX, we already have enough people wanting to move here as it is, and this is causing major traffic problems and real estate costs to get much worse every year. I love it here, but having so many people from other states wanting to move here is just causing huge problems.
    This is true. It might actually be better if people didn't want to move here.

    :chuckle
  2. by   RN34TX
    Quote from socalirn
    please do stay in TX, we already have enough people wanting to move here as it is, and this is causing major traffic problems and real estate costs to get much worse every year. I love it here, but having so many people from other states wanting to move here is just causing huge problems. Everyone sees CA as this heavenly place to live, but when they move here and live here a while, they see quickly that its not all cracked up to be. The California that I once knew is a wash, thats why I will be moving even further up to Nor Cal to escape the madness of our cities. I don't mean to be negative at all, just my 2 cents....but then again, what do I know?...lol
    Where in my post did you get the message that I'm moving there anytime soon?
    I've already lived there, long before I was a nurse, but long enough to find it interesting to hear those comments that often came from people who aren't originally from CA themselves.
    I used to see bumper stickers on people's cars that would say "Welcome to San Diego, now go home."
    I found that quite interesting to see so much of that in a city of people who were primarlily non-native transplants themselves, but now have a smug attitude toward others wanting to be there as if they had been there their whole lives and are now being invaded by outsiders.
  3. by   Euskadi1946
    Wow, wish Utah would be more generous to their nurses!!!!!
  4. by   socalirn
    Quote from RN34TX
    Where in my post did you get the message that I'm moving there anytime soon?
    I've already lived there, long before I was a nurse, but long enough to find it interesting to hear those comments that often came from people who aren't originally from CA themselves.
    I used to see bumper stickers on people's cars that would say "Welcome to San Diego, now go home."
    I found that quite interesting to see so much of that in a city of people who were primarlily non-native transplants themselves, but now have a smug attitude toward others wanting to be there as if they had been there their whole lives and are now being invaded by outsiders.
    Born and raised here......I didnt mean anything towards u at all, just making a general statement. The fact is people have to realize that CA is expensive, over crowded, and has major traffic issues. I just dont want to hear it everyday from people that moved here from another state recently and just start complaining right away about how CA is this or CA is that. MOVE BACK to where you came from, if you don't like it....just please stop complaining about how expensive it is to live here, we already know! Who knows, if people move back to where they came from, we might all be able to afford a nice residence here in CA...lol I understand this is not everyone's situation, but again its just my opinion....i wish we could break off and form our own country sometimes...hahaaha
  5. by   Sheri257
    Quote from RN34TX
    I found that quite interesting to see so much of that in a city of people who were primarlily non-native transplants themselves, but now have a smug attitude toward others wanting to be there as if they had been there their whole lives and are now being invaded by outsiders.
    I can't say I've seen a lot of it ... but it can happen. And it's not limited to out of state people either. Even when you have lived here awhile and just move to a new area in the state, you sometimes run into that attitude.

    It's silly, actually. I've lived in places with no traffic. There's no money there either. New people brings in new money. That's why all of those people's houses are now worth a fortune.

  6. by   RN34TX
    Quote from socalirn
    Born and raised here......I didnt mean anything towards u at all, just making a general statement. The fact is people have to realize that CA is expensive, over crowded, and has major traffic issues. I just dont want to hear it everyday from people that moved here from another state recently and just start complaining right away about how CA is this or CA is that. MOVE BACK to where you came from, if you don't like it....just please stop complaining about how expensive it is to live here, we already know! Who knows, if people move back to where they came from, we might all be able to afford a nice residence here in CA...lol I understand this is not everyone's situation, but again its just my opinion....i wish we could break off and form our own country sometimes...hahaaha
    You'd have to be living under a rock to not already know that CA is expensive, over-crowded, and has major traffic issues.
    These issues are not recent developments in the state, and whether you grew up wealthy and privileged in Connnecticut or in a trailer park in Tennessee, I have a hard time believing that people from out of state are shocked upon discovering these things when moving there because I would think that most people would expect it to be that way.

    If they really are surprised and complain about it the way that you say, then yes, they should move back because it's common knowledge to most and shouldn't be any surprise.
    That would be like moving to TX and being shocked about the hot weather and conservative culture. Everyone in the U.S. has an idea about what TX is like whether or not they've ever actually lived there, and most of it is in fact true.

    My point here is that if CA is so over-crowded, yet at the same time in such dire need of nurses, how would my moving there make it any worse?
    I would think that someone like me would actually be helping the local economy rather thain continuing to drain it like many of it's current residents and "natives."
    If anyone needs to leave the state or to stay where they are because CA is already too congested and over-crowded, it's certainly not any working licensed nurses.
  7. by   RN34TX
    Quote from lizz
    I can't say I've seen a lot of it ... but it can happen. And it's not limited to out of state people either. Even when you have lived here awhile and just move to a new area in the state, you sometimes run into that attitude.

    It's silly, actually. I've lived in places with no traffic. There's no money there either. New people brings in new money. That's why all of those people's houses are now worth a fortune.

    Thank you.
    That's why I used to get offended in CA by that kind of attitude.
    In addition to the fact that the majority of people who live there not being native themselves, it double annoyed me to hear that stuff from hospitality/hotel/bar/restaurant/car rental/airline people who either wouldn't be as prosperous as they are now or perhaps wouldn't even have a job at all if it weren't for the "evil" tourists and transplants who spend big money at their businesses every year and end up inflating their home values.

    We live in a tourist town on the gulf in TX and I always scold my partner if he ever gets impatient with a tourist who drives slow because thet are lost trying to find their hotel or whatever when high season hits.
    I remind him that tourism is big money in this town and that people expect Texans to always be polite and friendly.
    If we are rude to them when they come to visit, they might as well just go to CA or FL and spend their money.
  8. by   hotmaleRN2b
    I hope patient will get a better qulity care with that latest development... Goodluck
  9. by   wincha
    Quote from RN34TX
    You'd have to be living under a rock to not already know that CA is expensive, over-crowded, and has major traffic issues.
    These issues are not recent developments in the state, and whether you grew up wealthy and privileged in Connnecticut or in a trailer park in Tennessee, .

    WOW!!! I have visited Tennessee many times and I have to say they have wonderful neighborhoods and some very expensive homes. Trailer parks? You can find them everywhere anyway. Its just not TN.
  10. by   RN34TX
    Quote from wincha
    WOW!!! I have visited Tennessee many times and I have to say they have wonderful neighborhoods and some very expensive homes. Trailer parks? You can find them everywhere anyway. Its just not TN.
    I didn't say that trailer parks are exclusive to TN. I was merely citing examples.
    Yes, the state has some very nice homes, like ANY state.
    I've worked in Nashville, Jackson, Oak Ridge, Memphis, Clarksville, Johnson City, and Knoxville.
    Am I being PC enough for you now?

    I'm disappointed that my remark about TN was your biggest concern.
  11. by   Sheri257
    Quote from RN34TX
    I have a hard time believing that people from out of state are shocked upon discovering these things when moving there because I would think that most people would expect it to be that way.
    True. But there's other factors that's made the costs worse even beyond what people might expect. A couple of years ago, the fires took out 5,000 homes in SoCal. While a lot of people had insurance, some of them hadn't upgraded their coverage to reflect higher market value of their homes. So they couldn't afford to rebuild where they lived. Landlords took advantage, so rents also went higher.

    And, of course, losing 5,000 homes made the market more expensive. Many people got into some really bad mortgages so they could buy homes here. A lot of mortgage companies would give you an artificially low adjustable rate that was only good for a couple of months. It would lower your payment enough to "qualify" for the mortgage, even though the real payment that would kick in a couple of months later is actually much higher.

    People were taking on mortgages that were 50 percent or more of their income and, now that interest rates are going up, the payments are going even higher than that. Then add the recent hike in gas prices, which can be up to $1 a gallon higher here than the rest of the country, and that probably makes it worse ... especially when you're mortgage payment is going up.

    So, I can see how it might prompt people to complain that expenses have gone up more than they anticipated.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on Dec 10, '05
  12. by   RN34TX
    Quote from lizz
    True. But there's other factors that's made the costs worse even beyond what people might expect. A couple of years ago, the fires took out 5,000 homes in SoCal. While a lot of people had insurance, some of them hadn't upgraded their coverage to reflect higher market value of their homes. So they couldn't afford to rebuild where they lived. Landlords took advantage, so rents also went higher.

    And, of course, losing 5,000 homes made the market more expensive. Many people got into some really bad mortgages so they could buy homes here. A lot of mortgage companies would give you an artificially low adjustable rate that was only good for a couple of months. It would lower your payment enough to "qualify" for the mortgage, even though the real payment that would kick in a couple of months later is actually much higher.

    People were taking on mortgages that were 50 percent or more of their income and, now that interest rates are going up, the payments are going even higher than that. Then add the recent hike in gas prices, which can be up to $1 a gallon higher here than the rest of the country, and that probably makes it worse ... especially when you're mortgage payment is going up.

    So, I can see how it might prompt people to complain that expenses have gone up more than they anticipated.

    I've been reading a lot about this lately.
    I figured that with the housing market going the way it has been going, eventually the bubble would have to burst, and from recent articles I've been reading, that's already started to happen.
    While experiencing our own version of the housing "boom," the same thing happened here after the hurricanes. People didn't beef up their insurance to better reflect their actual home value in today's market and now some can't afford to rebuild on their now much more expensive water front property.

    I guess I can see your version of it where people just didn't anticipate the costs to be nearly as bad as they ended up becoming, depending on their situation.
    My thought was that you'd have to at least have somewhat of an idea to anticipate things like heavy traffic and higher housing costs and I can't believe that anyone would move to CA and be taken completely by surprise by it.
  13. by   wincha
    Quote from RN34TX
    I didn't say that trailer parks are exclusive to TN. I was merely citing examples.
    Yes, the state has some very nice homes, like ANY state.
    I've worked in Nashville, Jackson, Oak Ridge, Memphis, Clarksville, Johnson City, and Knoxville.
    Am I being PC enough for you now?

    I'm disappointed that my remark about TN was your biggest concern.
    see that is what popped out. while you don't think you should be pc you are insulting to people who live in tn and who live in mobile homes. so whatever else you said wasn't noticed

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