Nurses strike ongoing in Kentucky - page 2

Strike Some very determined nurses have apparently been on strike since early October. Some nurses who chose to cross the line have had some terrible things happen to them. Some day these... Read More

  1. by   pickledpepperRN
    Striking KY nurses see solidarity

    Striking Kentucky nurses saw support Thursday from around the country. Nurses from several states, including Hawaii, Oregon, New York, and Florida, went to Lexington for the rally.

    "The reason is a lack of respect from management, poor conditions they work under, and the quality of care is in question for their patients," said Ann Converso of United American Nurses.

    http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story...provider=gnews
  2. by   pickledpepperRN
    New Contract Offered To End ARH Strike

    Dec 1, 2007

    Appalachian Regional Healthcare makes a new contract proposal and asks the Kentucky and West Virginia Nurses Associations to vote on it next week.

    ARH officials say the new proposal makes changes to items like staffing and scheduling, which the unions say are some of the main strike issues.

    ARH and union officials confirm the offer also includes a return to the successorship clause from the nurses' previous contract, another big sticking point.

    But there's a catch. ARH officials say the offer has to be voted on and approved by this coming Tuesday....

    http://www.wkyt.com/wymtnews/headlines/11989971.html
    I don't know how they can study the offer, discuss it with the nurses, and schedule a vote over the weekend.

    I wouldn't vote "yes" unless labor experts studied and explained it to the nurses.
    It could backfire if they agree to a trick because of the deadline.

    Why can't the hospitals give more time?
    Why doen't they bargain?
  3. by   Weeping Willow
    Joel is a student so has not yet had to carry 12 patients.

    When I first read the article, I thought it wsn't so bad for these nurses - losing double time for holiday? I don't get double time. 2.5 hours of mandatory OT weekly? I have about the same because my relief just will not get to work on time and the supervisor won't get on her about it. And the higher end nurses make more than I do. But I do not have to carry more patients than I can handle. I have sufficient help and decent benefits, not great but decent. So I do understand where they're coming from and wish them the best. I wish the scabs would understand that they are the problem.
  4. by   juicyjake
    Quote from joeld311
    I'm from the South and we, for the most part, are raised being taught that unions are NOT GOOD. Unions have ruined the auto industry as well as many others, and "hardcore" union members are typically quite liberal politically. As in, they believe that "the man" is down on them, and believe in raising taxes and free healthcare, etc. I'm not sure about the hospital's view on the situation but hospitals ARE a business. If you have a problem with that then you should work for a non-profit charity hospital. I believe that the real culprit here is insurance companies. The hospitals have to remain at least breaking even or they will close down and you WON'T HAVE A JOB THERE AT ALL!! If anyone is interested enough, why don't some of you take a look at the recent history of stock quotes on some of the companies that own hospitals... they really aren't going up. I'm assuming that these nurses are striking for better pay. I have a question for these striking nurses and that is, why don't you find a different hospital to work at?!?! There are plenty of hospitals out there paying a lot of money for nurses. And when the hospital runs out of nurses completely they will start raising pay again. And it's not like the entire United States doesn't have literally thousands of nursing jobs available people. Come on! Get with it. Stop trying to make other people pay for you to live in a fantasy land that doesn't exist to begin with.

    Joel
    You are right about a few things:

    1) hospital are a business.
    2) insurance companies are the culprits.

    Health care is a 90 BILLION dollar per year "business". There IS money out there for nurses. The nurses deserve that money. Do you understand the responsibility that comes with being a nurse? The liability is outrageous. They deserve more money, plain and simple.
    Not only will you get fired from your job if you make a "little" mistake (that may not directly have been your fault) but you could possibly get your license revoked. It's impossible to be perfect, and when you have DOUBLE the amount of patients that you should, mistakes will happen. People will die.
    If the starting salary of the nurse increased, then more people would want to be nurses. Far into the future this will even out the nurse-patient ratio. That is the answer. The answer is not to overload our practicing nurses until they are so overwhelmed that they get fired because they made a mistake.

    I don't know enough about unions to say rather or not they are good or bad. I do know that striking to prove a point is very detrimental. That is also killing people.

    good luck to the striking nurses, hopefully nobody will get hurt crossing the picket lines.

    EDIT: I know that's not the cause of the strike. I just hate that this ignorant post is accusing nurses of being greedy. It really pisses me off...
    All nurses want and deserve is SAFE PATIENT RATIOS! That is not a lot to ask.
    Last edit by juicyjake on Dec 3, '07
  5. by   cmo421
    "I don't know enough about unions to say rather or not they are good or bad. I do know that striking to prove a point is very detrimental. That is also killing people." quote

    When a strike occurs,a ten day notice at least, is given. Hospitals are more then prepared. Down sizing is done. Strike breakers come in and non union staff take over. People too sick to care for ,are transported out normally. Strikes do not kill pts, lack of staff, lack of education, exhausted care givers,and poor supplies do. Not a nurses in the world loves to strike. It is a last ditch sffort. It breaks them financially and is degrading. At times,extreme measures are needed to get the mininum needed to work safely. Good luck to all those willing to take the line to promote pt safety!
  6. by   AU-RN
    All i have to say is those nurses in kentucky/west virginia are some HARD CORE union believers b/c thats an awfully long time to go without work especially if you have families etc. I can only imagine how much money the relief nurses have made that have been out there the past 2 months going on 3!!!! Some serious cash!!!!!

    They announced today btw that the California strike is a go and will be the week of Dec 13-14 (thursday-friday)with a guarantee of 60 hours with pay @ $48-52/hr with all travel expenses/hotel paid.
  7. by   juicyjake
    Quote from AU-RN
    All i have to say is those nurses in kentucky/west virginia are some HARD CORE union believers b/c thats an awfully long time to go without work especially if you have families etc. I can only imagine how much money the relief nurses have made that have been out there the past 2 months going on 3!!!! Some serious cash!!!!!

    They announced today btw that the California strike is a go and will be the week of Dec 13-14 (thursday-friday)with a guarantee of 60 hours with pay @ $48-52/hr with all travel expenses/hotel paid.
    If they can afford to pay the "scabs" that amount of money, why don't they just hire more nurses so the ratios will be acceptable? It seems like it would be MUCH cheaper....

    This world is such a sad place sometimes...
  8. by   BBFRN
    http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/...WS01#storychat

    " Officials at Appalachian Regional Healthcare say some patients are refusing to cross the picket line."

    " The ARH hospital in South Williamson, which sits on the Kentucky-West Virginia line, has laid off 43 support staff, such as licensed practical nurses and clerical workers, company spokeswoman Candace Elkins said yesterday. About 100 miles east of South Williamson, 17 workers have been laid off and the general medical unit has been closed at the ARH hospital in Beckley, W.Va.
    Officials at the hospitals blame the layoffs on a drop in patient volume.
    Elkins said the hospitals usually experience lighter patient traffic around the holidays, but this year's drop is out of the norm.
    'These are people who would normally be our patients who don't want to cross the picket line,' she said.





    ARH officials declined to specify how much revenue and patient volume have dropped."
  9. by   BBFRN
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...12-20-16-20-00

    Looks like they have made a tentative agreement, and will vote on the contract Friday or Saturday.
  10. by   pickledpepperRN
    UPDATE: ARH Nurses Ratify Contract

    Dec 23, 2007

    Hundreds of striking nurses will return to work in the coming days, weeks and months after workers voted to ratify a new contract with Appalachian Regional Healthcare....

    ...At least 350 RNs will be called back to work by no later than January 31 according to the Return to Work Agreement, with hundreds possibly being recalled as early as next week. ALL striking nurses are to be called back to work by no later than March 31. In the Return to Work Agreement, ARH commits to making their 'best effort' to return 100% of the striking nurses to their pre-strike unit and shifts; and guarantees that at least 80% of all striking nurses will be returned to their pre-strike units.
    Tanner said, "With tonight's vote and our Registered Nurses returning to work, we will now turn our full attention to helping rebuild the patient census and reopening previously closed units."...

    http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/12776962.html
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