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Aug 15, 2009 05:47 PM

Nurses not immune to sick economy

by lobes

http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/h...rses16.article

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Old Aug 16, 2009, 10:02 AM

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Thanks for the article, perhaps it is time for Congress to remove it's bill HR 2536 from importing foreign nurses.
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Old Aug 16, 2009, 12:03 PM
Updated Aug 16, 2009 at 12:05 PM by lee1

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It is interesting to read just WHO is supporting this bill and who is against it.

MAPLight.org reports that the following organizations have taken a stance on this bill:

Support:
Immigration Lawyers Association
American Hospital Association
American Society for Healthcare Human Resources Administration
American Association of International Healthcare Recruitment
Oppose:

American Nursing organization
American Nurses

Follow the link to MAPLight.org to see if campaign contributions from employees
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Old Aug 16, 2009, 12:04 PM

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"m.ernst wrote:
Is anybody looking into the fact that the Hospitals instead of hiring new nurses are just increasing the work load of there existing nurses! Thus they increase there bottom line. Also unfortunately this increases the stress on the nurses and the chances of mistakes happening. Mr. Newbart should be looking into nurse staffing instead of putting out an article which doesn't address where the problem really is!"


The company I am currently working for does exactely that. They work three nurses, where there should be four, two where there should be three, etc. No matter what it does to the residents or staff. This has gone on for the two years I have worked there, so the economy is just their most recent excuse. Nurses come to work there, find out about the working conditions then leave. It's like a revolving door. I have stayed there so long because it's a few blocks from where I live and I work only PRN. The bad thing is they will not admit they are doing this. They act like they just can't figure out why no one wants to work for them. The company has 20+ nursing homes in South Texas. We need three to five more nurses on staff at any given time. At the beginning of August we had 30+ open shifts on the schedule.
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Old Aug 16, 2009, 12:22 PM

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Hospitals are worried about cuts in funding. The present Health care bill proposes to help pay for universal health care by cutting reimbursement for medicare and medicaid patients. Unfortunately Hospitals now do not get enough reimbursement to cover the cost of care of many Medicare and Medicaid patients. Further cut could be devastating. One quick way to save money is to increase nurses workloads, now a Nurse will have to care for eight patients instead of six. The Hospital saves money by having to pay fewer nurses, but the patients don't get the care they deserve and the Nurses get burned out quick. I saw this happen in the mid ninetys when their was talk about universal care. I don't understand how goverment officials expect Hospitals to cover more patients for less money.
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Old Aug 16, 2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by casper1 View Post
Hospitals are worried about cuts in funding. The present Health care bill proposes to help pay for universal health care by cutting reimbursement for medicare and medicaid patients. Unfortunately Hospitals now do not get enough reimbursement to cover the cost of care of many Medicare and Medicaid patients. Further cut could be devastating. One quick way to save money is to increase nurses workloads, now a Nurse will have to care for eight patients instead of six. The Hospital saves money by having to pay fewer nurses, but the patients don't get the care they deserve and the Nurses get burned out quick. I saw this happen in the mid ninetys when their was talk about universal care. I don't understand how goverment officials expect Hospitals to cover more patients for less money.
The thing that makes me mad is they cut staff when the merely HEAR talk about cutting medicare reimbursements.
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Old Aug 16, 2009, 01:18 PM

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I find it odd that these facilities are only now acknowledging that there aren't many jobs for new RNs. The nursing schools in my area are still touting that there is such a shortage in our area, yet most facilities are on a hiring freeze indefinitely, and those few listings there are want 2 or more yrs experience. We've all been seeing this for almost a year now, and the media is just catching on-JEEZ
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Old Aug 16, 2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wacberry View Post
"m.ernst wrote:
Is anybody looking into the fact that the Hospitals instead of hiring new nurses are just increasing the work load of there existing nurses! Thus they increase there bottom line. Also unfortunately this increases the stress on the nurses and the chances of mistakes happening. Mr. Newbart should be looking into nurse staffing instead of putting out an article which doesn't address where the problem really is!"


The company I am currently working for does exactely that. They work three nurses, where there should be four, two where there should be three, etc. No matter what it does to the residents or staff. This has gone on for the two years I have worked there, so the economy is just their most recent excuse. Nurses come to work there, find out about the working conditions then leave. It's like a revolving door. I have stayed there so long because it's a few blocks from where I live and I work only PRN. The bad thing is they will not admit they are doing this. They act like they just can't figure out why no one wants to work for them. The company has 20+ nursing homes in South Texas. We need three to five more nurses on staff at any given time. At the beginning of August we had 30+ open shifts on the schedule.
Very reason I recently left working in Chronic Dialysis. Most of the time I was the only RN in the building and still worked short of my PCT's. Funny how they quickly hired 2 new nurses once I resigned after telling me they couldnt find any lol. Profits were starting to go up, they were getting more patients yet having me cut my staffs hours. I was also the DON plus working the floor 10-12 hour shifts 5-6 days aweek. Now when I apply to hospitals, etc, I get that I dont have any "recent bedside experience" Now what's wrong with this picture?
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Old Aug 16, 2009, 05:20 PM

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It's about freakin' time that an article tells it like it is. I was getting sick and tired of all the supposedly nursing shortages articles that have been coming up even on this website and how we need to recruit more students. If that was the case then why have I been having such a difficult time getting a full time RN job?!?

I graduated one of the top students of my class in May. Have earned scholarships for both nursing years. I am bilingual and have many years of healthcare related experience. Yet I keep getting the "that is wonderful that you are bilingual BUT we are not hiring New Grads at this time!"

I hope this article is true when it says that this is only temporary and it should turn around soon. It's so hard to see no rewards for so many years of hard work and sacrifice.
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Old Aug 16, 2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by oramar View Post
The thing that makes me mad is they cut staff when the merely HEAR talk about cutting medicare reimbursements.
Medicare has cut funding already funds without health care reform while increasing the reporting the hospitals have to submit.
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