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No. 50
Old Aug 21, 2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Optimism View Post
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We have been in a nursing shortage, and, really, we still are," says Rosenberg. "It's just been masked a little bit by the downturn."
Thats why i'm homeless just a little downturn.
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No. 51
Old Aug 21, 2009, 06:34 PM

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I continue to read these articles on the nursing shortage, and I have to chime in. I am an older new grad, and I lived during the days of Reagan. Now, things weren't always perfect, but Reagan utilizing strictly conservative fiscal principles ushered in the most prosperous era in American history. Many new grads are too young and have lived only under what amounts to economy BUSTING presidents and policies. Obama is an utter nightmare, but Bush was just as bad. Before that we had 8 years of Clinton. So we're talking almost 20 years since we've had a true fiscal conservtive in office.

It's time to bring one back again. I don't care who it is -- we just need someone who will institute CONSERVATIVE fiscal principles. Not REPUBLICAN principles -- I'm talking conservative ones.

Health care needs tort reform in the worst way. Health insurance needs to return to a private market. There is so much government regulation now, and so much corporate control of it, people just lose out.

I feel sorry for young people today -- they dont' see what's happening to them. They need to study up on conservative fiscal policies and vote in representatives that stand FOR THE PEOPLE and not for big government, OR for big corporate conglomerates.

We also need to repeal laws that state we are to care for every single person who shows up to an ER. Hospitals are shutting down because of this -- yet we continue to ignore this horrific problem. We cannot continue to provide healthcare to half of the third world. It is unsustainable and unfair to Americans who work hard and pay taxes.

Nurses can only expect that their jobs will continue to decrease in number, and God help us if universal health care w/ a prviate option goes through. Nursing will be reduced to an "attendant" role and quality will go out the window. It will be nothing like any of us can even imagine.

Contrary to the common belief, you can't get someting for nothing. Someday has to pay. If you continue to take from the hands of taxpayers, soon you will run out of funds.

Time to return to fiscally conservative principles, to get government out of the way, and allow the American people to find solutions to these crises. It's also time for Americans to stop selling each other out and keep jobs HERE and give them to Americans FIRST.
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No. 52
Old Aug 21, 2009, 08:00 PM

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I continue to read these articles on the nursing shortage, and I have to chime in. I am an older new grad, and I lived during the days of Reagan. Now, things weren't always perfect, but Reagan utilizing strictly conservative fiscal principles ushered in the most prosperous era in American history. Many new grads are too young and have lived only under what amounts to economy BUSTING presidents and policies.
ROTFLMAO.

Reagan, a fiscal conservative??? You may have been alive but you clearly weren't paying attention. Deficits exploded under Reagan and the Federal debt skyrocketed.

Your political potshot is both off the topic and off the mark.

Cap on Obama all you want but spare us the right-wing "Reagan was a god" rhetoric. Some of us were alive then AND paying attention (unlike Reagan himself).

Fiscal conservative, my @$~
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No. 53
from lee1
Old Aug 21, 2009, 09:13 PM

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I wonder how many nurses from other countries are still here on VISAS. Do you think they should return to their own countries if they are not needed in certain areas??? And, would they even want to return to help out their own countries after making better salaries and enjoying better living conditions here?? But, they are taking up jobs that could be given to American nurses???

Or, have the vast majority of visa nurses already become citizens as soon as they could.
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No. 54
Old Aug 21, 2009, 09:33 PM

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[quote]ROTFLMAO.

Reagan, a fiscal conservative??? You may have been alive but you clearly weren't paying attention. Deficits exploded under Reagan and the Federal [COLOR=green ! important][COLOR=green ! important]debt[/color][/color]
skyrocketed.

Your political potshot is both off the topic and off the mark.

Cap on Obama all you want but spare us the right-wing "Reagan was a god" rhetoric. Some of us were alive then AND paying attention (unlike Reagan himself).

Fiscal conservative, my @$PEquote]

Well, you can laugh all you want, but there sure as hell wasn't a nursing shortage where highly educated new grads couldn't get jobs. New grads now have absolutely NO HOPE at the moment, and those talking about the economy "coming around again" are going to be highly disappointed as it continues to tank.

Even working nurses are faced with shorter staff and being cut short on their hours, and now greedy bean counters on both sides of the aisle are salivating at the thought of cheap nurses imported from the Phillipines!!

And you talk about Reagan running up deficits?? How about Obama -- what is the latest news now? $9 frickin TRILLION DOLLARS??? A stimulus package that no one has any idea where most of it is going? Jobs being eliminated at the rate of 500K per month in this country???

Medicaid is going bankrupt. BANKRUPT. All this clown wants to do is tax the rich and probably the middle class as well to pay for every social program under the sun, free healthcare, and doing NOTHING to stimulate the private economy. The problem with that is -- the money WILL run out and the standard of living and care will decline -- for EVERYONE.

You CANNOT argue that we have seen better times. Reagan's time was followed by unprecedented GROWTH unlike anything the world had ever seen. Clinton then reaped the benefits of the peacetime dividend brought on by Reagan having the BALLS to end the Cold War.

I do not feel my post if off topic at all. I simply stated that for something to change, we need to return to fiscally conservative policies for it to get better. I feel very BADLY for nurses nowadays -- and I fear our plight is only going to get worse. The solution is there -- stop all the BS taxation, stop all the lobbying, the special influences, the ambulance chasing, the illegal giveaways, get the government the HELL out of the way and allow the American people to once again make thing work. What is so DAMN bad about that??
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No. 55
Old Aug 21, 2009, 10:19 PM

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It always makes me chuckle when you right-wingers simultaneously ascribe the success under the Clinton administration as the results of Reagan while laying the present problems solely at the feet of Obama.

All together, now: "Dittoes, Rush!"
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No. 56
Old Aug 21, 2009, 10:23 PM

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Oh yeah... you can thank the likes of Bill Gates and Larry Ellison - as well as Big Bubble Al (not to mention the irrational exuberance) - for the good times under Clinton much more than you can that doddering old fool Reagan and his right-wing rhetoric and big-government actions.

We'll be paying the price for Greenspan's folly for decades.
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No. 57
Old Aug 21, 2009, 11:15 PM

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Music -- just what do you think is SO great about the liberal policies now in place to supposedly boost our economy? Name some. Anything. I'd just love to hear it.

Obama dips into the trough and spends billions to "bail out" auto makers, bail out bankers, rob the taxpaying citizens of the country to stimulate exaclty what? We can't say he's stimulating private industry (which includes private hospitals) Auto makers don't exactly count as they are stifled by unions -- I mean, just WHAT liberal policies now in place are going to increase business activity, increase and expand the economy to the point where tax revenues are such that community hospitals can expand and hire more nurses??? Explain it to me, please. I'm sorry, but where are we going to get the money??

You didn't even acknowledge the $9 trillion dollar deficit or the bailouts, much less the don't-even-get-me-started-on-it mortgage crisis.
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No. 58
from pinfinity
Old Aug 22, 2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NurseRivera View Post
You need to report the illegible MD to your facility's risk management.
um. no offense nurserivera, but if she does this I GUARANTEE she will find herself looking for another job within the week.
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No. 59
from MandaMoe
Old Aug 23, 2009, 11:05 AM

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great info
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