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No. 40
Old Aug 18, 2009, 02:18 PM

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Hmmph. The AACN gal suggests looking for work earlier. Apparently nobody has informed her that very few places will hire somebody on an interim permit. The applicant pool is simply too large for them to be bothered with anybody who hasn't already passed the NCLEX.
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No. 41
Old Aug 18, 2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisa Rosenberg, Rush University's director of academic advancement
What we have now is a temporary situation...Nurses are never out of a job. Their services are always required.
Sounds like a self-serving statement by someone affiliated with a nursing school.


"Never out of a job?" Beyond all of us sucker new-grads, I've read plenty of posts in this thread an others of experienced nurses who can't find a full-time gig.
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No. 42
Old Aug 18, 2009, 02:23 PM

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And even at the end of this article they have the gall to close with the usual BS about the "shortage" and how only half the needed number of nurses are entering the profession.

Ummm.... what about the many thousands of us who are trying to enter the profession but being denied the opportunity?

What a load of manure.
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No. 43
Old Aug 18, 2009, 05:26 PM

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i think it is mostly for new grads, because everyone I know that has been job searching (in different states) has eventually gotten a job, besides the new grads. and I'm sure it will turn around quick... we are ALWAYS understaffed...
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No. 44
from LockportRN
Old Aug 18, 2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MedSurgeMess View Post
I find it odd that these facilities are only now acknowledging that there aren't many jobs for new RNs. The nursing schools in my area are still touting that there is such a shortage in our area, yet most facilities are on a hiring freeze indefinitely, and those few listings there are want 2 or more yrs experience. We've all been seeing this for almost a year now, and the media is just catching on-JEEZ

Gosh this is sooo true. It has been driving me crazy for more than a year now hearing that there is a nursing shortage! It isn't true now and has not been true for some time. The more I hear this and the scare tactics about needing more nursing instructors and blah, blah, blah. The fact is the hospitals and other nursing facilities just consistently USE nurses. We become the scapegoat. And as some posters in other threads have said, and rightly so, when we cannot be all to everyone and all times, the patient or their family complains about US and we as the nurse get fired because our majic wand couldn't make us into 'gremlins that u feed after midnight causing us to multiply' just to get an impossible job done!

If I read the OP correctly that the ANA wants us to import more foreign nurses?!? I'll have to reread that and go to the site. As usual, I am so impressed with nurses, their resourcefulness is seemingly never-ending and I love how so many like to refernce material and get the facts. :clphnds:

Now, ANA, and INA, let's hear it from nurses on how we can come together to get OUR concerns about the healthcare reform problem as it relates to nursing, nurses and the impact it will have on our lives and the lives of our families!
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No. 45
from Optimism
Old Aug 18, 2009, 08:08 PM

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Nurses not immune to sick economy :: Herald News :: Business

After graduating at the top of her nursing school class at Elmhurst College in May, Talia Simon figured she wouldn't have any trouble finding a job -- certainly not during a years-long, nationwide nursing shortage.

But the Oak Park woman says she hasn't been able to find work at any of the Chicago area medical centers she has applied to. And she has been hearing the same thing from many of her former classmates.

"In last year's class, most of the people had jobs lined up before they graduated," says Simon. "This year, it's five or six people out of a class of 52. It's really a shock to us that it's such a challenge to get in on the ground floor."

Nursing has long been seen as largely immune to economic ups-and-downs.
But with the current recession, "We are definitely seeing a decrease in openings for new grads," says Vicki Keough, acting dean of Loyola University Chicago's Marcella Niehoff School of Nursing.

And it's not just in Chicago. Fay Raines, president of the American Association of Colleges of Nursing, says the group hasn't done any surveys to measure the impact of the economy on nurse hiring, but she has been hearing reports from around the country that this year's nursing school graduates have had a tougher time finding jobs than usual -- especially those in larger cities.

Her group and others are urging nursing students to starting looking for work earlier and to consider taking a job in a smaller town, if necessary.

The recession's impact on nursing has come in the form of a one-two punch, says Sharon Canariato, of the Illinois Nurses Association. Canariato notes that many older nurses have put off retirement or returned to the field, while others who previously worked part-time have shifted to full-time to help their family finances.

At the same time, hospitals have slowed their hiring of new nurses. And some, like Loyola University Health System, have had layoffs.

"For a few months, we did not hire nurses here. That's almost unheard of," says Keough, adding that Loyola is now once again hiring.

It's now in the process of hiring 40 new nurses.

All of this comes at a time when nursing school enrollment is growing at many schools, including the University of Illinois at Chicago and Rush University College of Nursing.

The current job crunch for nursing school graduates will likely ease once the economy stabilizes, says Rush's Lisa Rosenberg.

"What we have now is a temporary situation," says Rosenberg, Rush's director of academic advancement. "Nurses are never out of a job. Their services are always required."

Says Raines: "I think we will find the job situation turning around very quickly."

The larger problem facing the health-care industry, experts say, is that projections show there won't be enough new nurses to replace those who retire in the next decade or so, while demand for their services will keep growing as the population ages.

A report from the Metropolitan Chicago Healthcare Council last year estimated that the Chicago area will need 3,000 new nurses a year through 2014, but it projected that only half that number will join the work force each year.

"We have been in a nursing shortage, and, really, we still are," says Rosenberg. "It's just been masked a little bit by the downturn."
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No. 46
from rkitty198
Old Aug 19, 2009, 09:13 AM

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I know that where I live the hiring of nurses is very slow, to none. I was lucky to even get a job- and I have three years experience.
Even the agency nurses are having to move elsewhere to find work.
We keep hearing about this nursing shortage, but it is sad to think that there still isnt enough and the ones already working are being overworked.
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No. 47
Old Aug 19, 2009, 11:17 AM

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FYI...

This is the EXACT same article that is posted two stories under you: "Nurses not immune to sick economy."

Kind of redundant!
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No. 48
from OregonGal
Old Aug 19, 2009, 10:56 PM

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Same situation in Oregon. I'm a new RN, with no job. What I do have is plenty of "thanks, but no thanks" letters.

What I've done to help my chances: I have applied everywhere in my state, and am willing to relocate. I have taken ACLS & PALS at my own expense, I volunteer with Red Cross. And still...nothing!

I graduated in June with 100 in my nursing class, my estimation is that 10-12 of them have jobs.
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No. 49
Old Aug 20, 2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sasha2lady View Post
Here in NC we are also feeling it...bad. I work in LTC and they have been cutting our hours back big time b/c of "low census".....our local hospital just permanently laid off over 60 employees....and are on a huge hiring freeze. We have to take an hour break when we were already struggling to get in a 30...so many things fall through the cracks and get skipped all the time. Of course no member of nursing mgmt helps out with any of the extra paperwork or labs or orders....nothing...they get outta there...when technically they can stay and help...they are salaried. We just recently had a different md cover ours...who is...terrible to nurses. Nobody likes him...he comes in on 2nd to do his rounds...I told my DON that I absolutely would not go with him and take an hour break...how about she ended up staying til late that night helping me do his orders. The ADON is his wife....even she stayed and helped. It would be ok if we could just read his handwriting. I thought an order said 25 grams and it was actually 2 scoops......how anybody could get 2 scoops out of that is beyond me. One of our CNAs just took her RN boards and passed...and just now found a prn job after a month of being an RN working as a CNA. Nobody would hire her d/t lack of experience ....she wanted something other than LTC but I told her to grab onto whatever she could and get that experience under her belt and then move on to something else. Luckily ...she took that advice and I think she will go far eventually. I have been looking for PRN work and so far..nothing and Ive been applying left and right since mid JULY.
You need to report the illegible MD to your facility's risk management.
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