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No. 10
Old Feb 19, 2009, 02:40 PM

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Is this the normal course of treatment? Over 2 days?

"Margaret was stable after two hours. After her friend called the local emergency doctor she was able to explain how she felt over the phone to a doctor. The next day she went to see her GP and the day after she was seen at the Bancroft TIA unit at Mile End Hospital where she had a brain scan and full physical examination."
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No. 11
Old Feb 19, 2009, 08:53 PM

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one of my friends had one in the summer of 2006. She was 20 at the time. She was driving and got what she thought was the worst migrane of her life and just went home. she had a docs appointment 2 weeks later to have blood work done (she has hypothyroidism) and when the blood work came back they said, "oh and by the way youve had a stroke"
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No. 12
Old Feb 20, 2009, 12:31 PM

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Finally home from the hospital. I ended up with a pre-curser (TIA). Most tests came back well within the normal range. However, my bad cholesterol is way bad and my good cholesterol is way worse. Dr. said if I don't make some serious changes in diet and lifestyle I could be in trouble in the future. My advice to all is don't ignore the symptoms. Get checked, and DON"T accept "it was a migraine" for an answer. Dr's have a tendency to blow off our symptoms because women don't usually have "normal" symptoms. I am currently looking for a neurologist who won't toss me off with the migraine answer. Yes, I have migraines, I've had them since I was 13 yrs old. I know what they are and the warning signs are. I also know when I have symptoms that are NOT migraine related. We are Nurses, if we had a pt with these symptoms, we would fight like crazy to have them properly diagnosed, we need to do the same for ourselves.
To all who replied, Thank You, and please take care of yourselves.
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No. 13
from misswoosie
Old Apr 27, 2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheesecakelady View Post
I never hear anyone talk about the symptoms of a tia or stroke in the brain stem or the cerebellum. They can some times be very different from what we think of as typical stroke symptoms and harder to recognize.

I know this is an old post,but have you read the book or watched the film called the Diving bell and the Butterfly?
Believe it-you do not want a brainstem stroke (or any stroke)-I think about 70% are fatal.

Migrainous stroke (ie loss of power/speech) is quite common.If you think that during migraine there is arterial spasm and that can deprive an area of brain of its blood supply.
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No. 14
Old Apr 29, 2009, 06:28 AM

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DX with hypertension here, after having what my doctor's have considered low BP 102/60 BP most of my life. Even when I'd have migraines my BP would run in the 120/80 range so they'd think nothing was wrong.

Then after a 3 week headache, that the ibuprofen, naproxyn, or fioricet wouldn't touch(can't take imitrex or pain meds), turned out my BP was running from 140/100 -190/120. My BP's better, but my pulse rate is still high IMO 92.

I'm on BP meds now, and while things are running normal during the week, it's running low on the weekends. Stress?? Seems to play a big factor.
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Old Jun 28, 2009, 09:05 PM

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Misswoosie, I looked this book up on Amazon. I think I will read it, but it sounds kind of scary. I've had a bit of experience with brainstem problems. My doctor seems unable or unwilling to make a definite diagnosis. I'd like to learn as much as I can on the subject. Thanks.
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from Erindel
Old Jun 28, 2009, 09:46 PM

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Wow I had a tia in march. I am 27. I was not thinking straight,could not talk in full sentences, did not know where I was, and had a huge headache right after. My hematologist came to my house to evaluate me and I had a ct and mri which were both neg. But I had an echco with bubble study and found out I had a good size hole in my heart, a pfo. So after many tests...... yadayada they believed a clot went through the hole to my brain. Soooooo in may I had my pfo closed in the cardiac cath lab with a pfo closure device. Also they found out I have a hypercoaguable state with my blood so I take coumadin and aspirin now. How fun..... but I can't believe this all started with the sx of a stroke/tia. Amazing what can happen to u when u are usually the one taking care of the patients.
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No. 17
Old Jun 29, 2009, 03:47 AM
Updated Jun 29, 2009 at 06:49 AM by NRSKarenRN

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Let talk about stroke, The Stroke is an interruption of the blood supply to any part of the brain. There are two kind of the stroke. First, Ischemic strokes occur as a result of an obstruction within a blood vessel supplying blood to the brain. The underlying condition for this type of obstruction is the development of fatty deposits lining the vessel walls. And the second is hemorrhagic (the blood vesseaux causing bleeding in the brain. The blood is going other brain tissue and taking place in the skull and increase cranial pressure in this part of the brain. Understand stroke is a continuumprocess developing to sclerosis, to TIA, and to acute TIA ischemia stroke. Wherever, that patient will be temporally better, all signs or symptoms of stroke disappear you want to see the patient one side weakness go away in the next fifteen minutes no longer has side weakness but doesn’t means the problem go away, your pt has permanent damage to the brain and symptoms go away because the other part of the brain take over the function for the part is involve. If not it’ll be a permanent stroke. That why you call that Mini stroke.
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No. 18
from misswoosie
Old Jun 29, 2009, 04:28 AM
Updated Jun 29, 2009 at 06:49 AM by NRSKarenRN

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Originally Posted by lutumba Malongo View Post

Let talk about stroke, The Stroke is an interruption of the blood supply to any part of the brain. There are two kind of the stroke. First, Ischemic strokes occur as a result of an obstruction within a blood vessel supplying blood to the brain. The underlying condition for this type of obstruction is the development of fatty deposits lining the vessel walls. And the second is hemorrhagic (the blood vesseaux causing bleeding in the brain. The blood is going other brain tissue and taking place in the skull and increase cranial pressure in this part of the brain. Understand stroke is a continuumprocess developing to sclerosis, to TIA, and to acute TIA ischemia stroke. Wherever, that patient will be temporally better, all signs or symptoms of stroke disappear you want to see the patient one side weakness go away in the next fifteen minutes no longer has side weakness but doesn’t means the problem go away, your pt has permanent damage to the brain and symptoms go away because the other part of the brain take over the function for the part is involve. If not it’ll be a permanent stroke. That why you call that Mini stroke.
The accepted def of TIA (transient ischaemic attack) is sudden onset of focal neurology, caused by an interuption in the circulation to the brain (ie vascular origin). The symptoms completely resolve within 24 hours.
However, most Stroke physicians will tell you that if the symptoms haven't completely resolved within 15 mins then there will probably be some scarring of the brain (on MRI) due to the period of temporary ischaemia. However, if the symptoms completely resolved within the 24hr time frame then they will probably still call it a TIA.
The neurological symptoms of a TIA don't resolve because the other parts of the brain take over the function, but because the blood supply is restored.In a stroke the blood supply isn't restored, unless thrombolysis is given with good effect.
So, as we never know if the focal neurology is going to completely resolve, all symptoms should be treated as an emergency.It is a stroke until proven otherwise.
Mini-Stroke is not an accepted medical diagnosis.
Strokes vary in severity hugely, but just because someone is left with minimal disability, doesn't mean it was a TIA.It is still as stroke.
Stroke is obviously more common in elderly people, because they have the highest incidence of the common risk factors, but in young people with none of these common risk factors you would look for things like cardiac causes (PFO,AF etc), vasculitis and thrombophylias. Also need to check that this is definitely a stroke and not a stroke mimic , so history is particularly important.
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No. 19
from misswoosie
Old Jun 29, 2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Erindel View Post
Wow I had a tia in march. I am 27. I was not thinking straight,could not talk in full sentences, did not know where I was, and had a huge headache right after. My hematologist came to my house to evaluate me and I had a ct and mri which were both neg. But I had an echco with bubble study and found out I had a good size hole in my heart, a pfo. So after many tests...... yadayada they believed a clot went through the hole to my brain. Soooooo in may I had my pfo closed in the cardiac cath lab with a pfo closure device. Also they found out I have a hypercoaguable state with my blood so I take coumadin and aspirin now. How fun..... but I can't believe this all started with the sx of a stroke/tia. Amazing what can happen to u when u are usually the one taking care of the patients.
So sorry to hear that.
At least you had a warning sign that triggered investigations, rather than a full blown stroke straight off.
Now on the right treatment your risk will be much lower. How do you feel about being on coumadin-you are young and it can be a little restrictive ? Who manages your anticoagulation?
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