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No. 20
from GiGiOm
Old Oct 04, 2009, 03:57 AM

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Whatever! I guess if a company wants to brand us like cattle as proof that we work for them, that's not a human rights violation either. Get real!
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No. 21
Old Oct 04, 2009, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GiGiOm View Post
Whatever! I guess if a company wants to brand us like cattle as proof that we work for them, that's not a human rights violation either. Get real!
If one willingly stays employed for a company that has a policy of branding its employees, I would suggest the problem may lie with the person and not the company. It's a two-way street. One chooses to be employed in a particular job and for a particular company.

I'd like to see a McDonald's fryer successfully wage a human rights campaign due to the fact he's forced to wear a hairnet at work. It's not all that different.
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No. 22
from GiGiOm
Old Oct 04, 2009, 05:12 AM

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Oh, I'm sorry! Guess you don't understand the concept of analogy. I'm not engaging in a contest to see who can get the last word. I was simply pointing out a possible solution to this mandatory vaccination nonsense. I'm not against vaccines. I am against fast-tracked vaccines that have side effects potentially worse than the disease itself. Especially when many of the makers of said vaccines don't want to take it themselves. So, whatever. Disagree if you want to. You've got your opinion. I've got mine.
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No. 23
from lina.561
Old Oct 04, 2009, 07:34 AM

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I visit St. Marys Medical Center often here in West Palm Beach, FL.
I do not have to wear any masks and they let me in the ICU to see my friend. I dont see anyone else with masks on either. I would not want to take the flu shot, they just inject you with the diesase! My mother in law took the flu shot and I don't know if this is coindence or not but she contracted diabeties right after!
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No. 24
Old Oct 04, 2009, 08:12 AM

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When all y'all decided to apply to nursing school, didn't you have to provide proof that you'd either been vaccinated against measles, mumps, rubella and and and OR proof you had the disease? Did you all comply? Why is this so different? The H1N1 vaccine is made the same way the seasonal flu vac. is made. Seasonal flu is a combination of the most likely strains of flu for a particular year. It changes from year to year based on the likely hood of one organism or another. H1N1 is made in the identical manner. So why say you're not afraid to get the seasonal flu but you are afraid of the H1N1 flu? It makes no logical sense. You'd think health care workers wouldn't get involved in the hysteria over this.
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No. 25
from dcampbell
Old Oct 04, 2009, 12:26 PM

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I've posted this in another forum, but though it appropraite here as well. I can envision our hosptial attempting to mandate vaccines soon.
In an effort to prevent the spread of H1N1 flu our organization states it will screen all employees for s/s of influenza BEFORE clocking in. They plan on taking everyones temperature and asking health questions prior to each oncoming persons shift. Not only will they pre-screen but they will randomly check staffs temperature throughout the day/night and send you home if you are deemed in their eyes unfit to work. We are a union hospital. I guess I'm questioning their right to do so. Has anyone elses facilities taken such a measure as to pre-screen to determine being fit for work due to influenza scare? But in the mean time...
1) What about if an employee just takes Tylenol before work? No fever.
2) How nice that hospitals NOW do not want sick employees to work. I guess this summer, it will be back to supervisors demanding nurses work sick, or be disciplined.
3) Suppose, during these daily prework screenings, there are not enough employees to work that shift?
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No. 26
from dcampbell
Old Oct 04, 2009, 12:31 PM

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Nurses will have their temperatures taken throughout their shifts.
Visitors (who knows what their temperature is) will be escorted into our patient's rooms. Visitors--hugging and kissing on the patients, not washing their hands, ect.
What's the point?
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No. 27
Old Oct 04, 2009, 04:48 PM

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There is a big difference between giving a urine drug sample or wearing a hairnet and being INJECTED with a shiny new drug. If you can't see the difference I feel sorry for you.
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No. 28
Old Oct 04, 2009, 05:07 PM

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Not to belabor the point, but the SEASONAL flu is shiny new each year. One year it has one strain of the flu, the next it is changed based on what the CDC thinks will be the strain we encounter. It's different every year...each year is new. I feel sorry for you if you don't understand THAT.
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No. 29
from GiGiOm
Old Oct 04, 2009, 05:30 PM

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Nobody should be forced to take a vaccination they do not want. Health care workers who are upset about this are not being hysterical. I don't think it's useful to get on this site and belittle nurses who are against this and see this as a slippery slope we are on from a civil rights perspective. It is illegal for us to force a competent, informed patient to undergo treatment he does not want. It's called battery, and we could end up doing time and paying a fine and losing our license for it. Last time I checked, I did not become nonhuman when I got my RN licensure (although many people in admin and the general public might seem to believe otherwise). The same rights should apply to us. No ifs, ands, or buts. Would you undergo a hysterectomy or a vasectomy if the government mandated it in the interest of protecting the public? It's an extreme example, I know. That said, it's been done before in a factory to the female workers. When you send a message that it's okay to force someone to submit to invasive treatment to keep his or her job, you open a big ethical pandora's box.
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