Nurse shortage gains attention of White House

  1. 16 The shortage has drawn the attention of President Barack Obama. During a White House meeting on Thursday to promote his promised healthcare system overhaul, Obama expressed alarm over the notion that the United States might have to import trained foreign nurses because so many U.S. nursing jobs are unfilled.

    Democratic U.S. Representative Lois Capps, a former school nurse, said meaningful healthcare overhaul cannot occur without fixing the nursing shortage. "Nurses deliver healthcare," Capps said in a telephone interview.

    An estimated 116,000 registered nurse positions are unfilled at U.S. hospitals and nearly 100,000 jobs go vacant in nursing homes, experts said.

    The shortage is expected to worsen in coming years as the 78 million people in the post-World War Two baby boom generation begin to hit retirement age. An aging population requires more care for chronic illnesses and at nursing homes.

    Full Story: http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...090308?sp=true
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  4. Visit  srahamim profile page
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    I'm sorry but this is bogus - so many new grads are finding that there isn't a nursing shortage especially during this recession with hospitals closing and new grad programs getting cancelled. I agree that there is an increasing need for nurses - just not too sure about open positions - many of te open positions are being filled by experienced nurses who are working more shifts or the shifts are just running short - foreign nurses aren't the answer - improving programs to encourage new nurses to stay in nursing are the answer.

    Also the current environment of "eat the young" doesn't help......

    *rant paused for now* :0
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  5. Visit  lindarn profile page
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    There is a good reason that there are 100,000 nursing vacanicies in nursing homes. Low pay, absolutely horrible working condition, senile patients who drive you crazy, the list goes on. Did I mention the short staffing, and the horrible working conditions? JMHO and my NY $0.02.

    Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
    Spokane, Washington
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  6. Visit  StNeotser profile page
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    Like you've just said, those vacancies are the ones where qualified nurses would rather work at the grocery store to avoid them.

    Those vacancies would vanish if the working conditions were safe.
    NJMike, Misslady113, muffin7, and 21 others like this.
  7. Visit  RochesterRN-BSN profile page
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    Quote from srahamim
    I'm sorry but this is bogus - so many new grads are finding that there isn't a nursing shortage especially during this recession with hospitals closing and new grad programs getting cancelled. I agree that there is an increasing need for nurses - just not too sure about open positions - many of te open positions are being filled by experienced nurses who are working more shifts or the shifts are just running short - foreign nurses aren't the answer - improving programs to encourage new nurses to stay in nursing are the answer.

    Also the current environment of "eat the young" doesn't help......

    *rant paused for now* :0

    I agree!!! I am an experienced RN and looking for something FT in mental health and I can't find anything-- my only limitation is night shift and this is a deal breaker...... and the number of positions for RNs around me in general is pathetic. But boy the number of posts for PT, OT, ST and even RT are crazy!!!
    muffin7, revsteelhead, VU RN BSN, and 5 others like this.
  8. Visit  FLmomof5 profile page
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    And if some of his reforms pass, it will actually make matters worse! His position is generating New Grads....which takes more instructors. Nurses won't instruct because they lose too much money. If you get paid as much for teaching as you do beside nursing.....any guesses what the experienced nurses will do?!?!?! (Run, not walk to the nearest facility exit!)
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    Democratic U.S. Representative Lois Capps, a former school nurse, said meaningful healthcare overhaul cannot occur without fixing the nursing shortage. "Nurses deliver healthcare," Capps said in a telephone interview.

    This kind of upsets me...how are we going to deal with the nursing shortage when the problem is not the number of qualified workers, but the number of qualified workers willing to deal with the crap we deal with? As a nurse, she should recognize this fact. As a Representative, she's in a position to help do something about it, besides make blatant generalizations in a phone interview...let's address the main issues with the shortage, please, instead of throwing one-liners at the masses.

    Blech. I just had two rough nights in a row and am back for a third tonite...maybe I'm just overreacting.
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  10. Visit  gonzo1 profile page
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    As usual government is a day late and a dollar short. Tons of layoffs in my areas, significantly decreased census, hours cut, etc.
    And if there are openings, it is in places where no human should work or be sick in.
    New grads can't get work, travel nurse contracts down to nil, agency hours gone, need I say more.
    Nurses are now having to apply for unemployment while they wait for any job to come up.
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  11. Visit  feliz3 profile page
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    Quote from lindarn
    There is a good reason that there are 100,000 nursing vacanicies in nursing homes. Low pay, absolutely horrible working condition, senile patients who drive you crazy, the list goes on. Did I mention the short staffing, and the horrible working conditions? JMHO and my NY $0.02.

    Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
    Spokane, Washington
    This is so true...a good friend of mine in Florida told me at her facility administration is considering laying off nurses! feliz3
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  12. Visit  feliz3 profile page
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    I believe there is not a nursing shortage as much there is a shortage of good and qualified nursing instructors, in addition to that, the actual nursing shortage is not in every state of the union, anyway. See this link posted by our dearest Bryan ;-) Best, feliz3
    http://www.aacn.nche.edu/IDS/datarep.htm
    Last edit by feliz3 on Mar 9, '09 : Reason: missing a space
  13. Visit  ®Nurse profile page
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    Higher acuity patients = the need for fewer patients per nurse.
    Fewer patients per nurse = the need for more nurses
    need for more nurses = more graduates per nursing school
    more graduate per nursing school = more instructor to teach nurses
    more instructors to teach nursing = need for more experienced nurses
    need for more experienced nurses = need to hire and train graduate nurse
    STOP!!!
    This requires the hospitals to hire and train graduates, which is NOT happening.


    This is broken AT BOTH ENDS!! The hospitals simply REFUSE to assign fewer patients per nurse, cause it dips into their pocket books. The hospitals also simply refuse to give new grads the experience out of the gate (let alone HIRE them........)

    Laws such as acuity laws like in California, coupled with nurse residency programs would go a LONG way to help with the nursing shortage!
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  14. Visit  cjmjmom profile page
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    I'm reading this post and all the comments and wonder, why don't WE call the White House and our respective city newspapers and tell them WHAT THE REAL PROBLEMS ARE...very poor working conditions and everything else that goes along with our situation? If WE allow senators, representatives, HOSPITAL LOBBYISTS, the ANA and all the other stake holders who do not, I repeat do not do the science and art of bedside nursing, to have this debate without OUR voice, FROM the horses mouth, than IT IS OUR FAULT IF THINGS DO NOT IMPROVE!!!!!!!!!!!! CALL, CALL, CALL! Get your RN friends to call! WE need to let them hear us!!
    papillonailes, RNMariposa, yalienne, and 10 others like this.
  15. Visit  cjmjmom profile page
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    Rep. Lois Capps phone number in Washington :202-225-3601. I just called, voiced my opinion about causes of shortage and how bedside nurses need a voice. I'm calling my Ohio senators and representatives. I hope EVERY nurse who reads this does the same....
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