Nurse shortage gains attention of White House - page 18

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The shortage has drawn the attention of President Barack Obama. During a White House meeting on Thursday to promote his promised healthcare system overhaul, Obama expressed alarm over the notion that the United States might have... Read More


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    The bottom line here is that there are many Americans who want to become nurses, and who are willing to do whatever it takes to become one. And who are willing to work nights, weekends, etc when they become one (I do these things now anyway, so whats the difference) I take exception to the idea that we automatically have to start importing nurses from overseas because supposedly lazy Americans don't want to do what is necessary. This is a canard. If I could get into nursing school right now today, I would. My pre-nursing grades have been great. I'm willing to do whatever needs to be done. I shouldn't have to have to wait a year and a half just to get a spot in a nursing school program. IMO, that's a scandal. Somebody's dropping the ball here.
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    Quote from PCstudent2009
    The bottom line here is that there are many Americans who want to become nurses, and who are willing to do whatever it takes to become one. And who are willing to work nights, weekends, etc when they become one (I do these things now anyway, so whats the difference) I take exception to the idea that we automatically have to start importing nurses from overseas because supposedly lazy Americans don't want to do what is necessary. This is a canard. If I could get into nursing school right now today, I would. My pre-nursing grades have been great. I'm willing to do whatever needs to be done. I shouldn't have to have to wait a year and a half just to get a spot in a nursing school program. IMO, that's a scandal. Somebody's dropping the ball here.
    The truth of the matter is, that the PTB in Healthcare, Management, and Administration, are trying to use the same excuse to ruin the nursing profession, that was used, and has ruined, so many other professions here in the US. It is up to us to set the record straight so the nursing profession doesn't end up the same way that these other professions did.

    Nurses need to start writing to Obama, elected officials, and most of all, the public to set the record straight. Right now they are being fed the lies, and no one is countering the lies with the truth. Perhaps if a group of nurses could write a letter to the editor in your local paper, no one person would be targeted. I know that most of you are not unionized, and/or, work in those "right to work (for less), states", and rightfully worry about your jobs. Someone has to take the plunge and get the facts out to the public. JMHO and my NY $0.02.

    Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
    Spokane, Washington
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    It's very important that nurses whose facilities in their communities have imported nurses from foreign countries, or are in the process of doing that, send delegates with lists of signatures from registered voters, to their representatives in state and federal government, to protest that. Boards of Nursing need to be warned in the case of situations wherein the foreign nurses aren't here yet, that local nurses protest the licensing of new immigrants, when there are new grads here, who desperately want the experience they need to get.

    If there are grad. nurses who have tried to get employment at their local hospitals, but have been told there is no "new grad program" there, they need to get the Deans of Nursing to meet with the administrations there, and reach an agreement about how that could be done, and who would foot the bill for it.

    In VA there will be an election for Governor in June '09, and I've gone to the candidate's informational session and told him about the new grad and importation of foreign nurses who will take less pay, situation. He was surprised to learn how there are hundreds, if not thousands of nurses in that plight, and said he'd inform the representatives and senators he knows in other states, about it.

    The next thing I knew, I got a "Career Builders" notice that VA hospitals have new grad programs. I don't know if what I said to Brian Moran had anything to do with it, but I'd like to think intervention is possible when we speak up. I put a copy of the above notice in the thread about nurses needing jobs.

    Many newspapers have articles written by their readers in their Opinion section. Get someone with good writing skills to write an outline for one, and get other nurses to contribute their own experiences, name names, quote specific things that you've heard, then when it's printed, copy the article and send one to every representative and senator in your state, with a page of signatures by registered voters who protest the practises there. What they don't know, will hurt you.

    As President Obama has said, it's not just him who has all the responsibility, it's us, too. Those who want something badly enough, eventually get it, as his presence in the White House tells us.
    Last edit by lamazeteacher on Mar 28, '09 : Reason: addition, clarity, typo
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    I went to a local career fair last Thurs. I ran into a nurse who let her license laps and had to take the NCLEX again and was having trouble getting a job. I ran into classes of nursing students all looking for work after May. The place was really packed and sometimes it took me 20 minutes just to talk with a recruiter.

    The recruiters were basically saying we don't have opens for new grads. One place did have a new grad program but they only were taking 20 people. Think about that- 20. How many nursing programs are in this state? tons. My program alone graduated 100 people every year. They were the only ones at the fair that even said they were accepting new grads. The others said they would take our resume and keep it on file for any future openings.

    One recruiter got tired of saying the same things and called all of the new grads/ soon to be nurses over to one side and said you will just have to do volunteer work to get experience because we aren't hiring new nurses.

    Everyone at the fair looked sad and nervous. I didn't see anyone smiling. There isn't any good news for the new grads coming out in May except you will having to move out of state if you want to find work right now. I can't get a full time job but I was offered a per- diem job on Friday which is going to have to do for now.

    I am tired of this and I think people need to know what is going on. I am going to lobby and write letters. I would like for anyone else who wants to help me to message me and lets get this started. The time to talk about it is over. We need action. In a time of supposed shortage, new nurses should not have to sit around for months at a time trying to get work.

    Lets get together and have a call for action. Who is in?
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    Quote from RNMariposa
    I went to a local career fair last Thurs. I ran into a nurse who let her license laps and had to take the NCLEX again and was having trouble getting a job. I ran into classes of nursing students all looking for work after May. The place was really packed and sometimes it took me 20 minutes just to talk with a recruiter.

    The recruiters were basically saying we don't have opens for new grads. One place did have a new grad program but they only were taking 20 people. Think about that- 20. How many nursing programs are in this state? tons. My program alone graduated 100 people every year. They were the only ones at the fair that even said they were accepting new grads. The others said they would take our resume and keep it on file for any future openings.

    One recruiter got tired of saying the same things and called all of the new grads/ soon to be nurses over to one side and said you will just have to do volunteer work to get experience because we aren't hiring new nurses.

    Everyone at the fair looked sad and nervous. I didn't see anyone smiling. There isn't any good news for the new grads coming out in May except you will having to move out of state if you want to find work right now. I can't get a full time job but I was offered a per- diem job on Friday which is going to have to do for now.

    I am tired of this and I think people need to know what is going on. I am going to lobby and write letters. I would like for anyone else who wants to help me to message me and lets get this started. The time to talk about it is over. We need action. In a time of supposed shortage, new nurses should not have to sit around for months at a time trying to get work.

    Lets get together and have a call for action. Who is in?

    i'll be happy to participate.
    i am applying for three LPN to RN programs and am having quite the time because they are having such an influx of people for the traditional programs they do not have enough instructors for the fast track schedule. i'm aggrevated, too.
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    I think that I will sit down and carefully craft a few letters myself - I've always been fairly decent at writing so maybe I should put that to use. We should probably not put these things off either. The way the government and the media operate, an issue usually gets it's "fifteen minutes of fame" and then is forgotten, with everyone going on to some other "hot-button issue". IMO, thats why a lot of things never get properly resolved. Getting their attention in the first place is important, keeping it and getting them to follow through is the harder part.
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    More Nurses, are you kidding me? We need MORE JOBS for nurses who are new or those returning to the workforce.
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    ANNOUNCEMENT TO MR. OBAMA: "There is NO nursing shortage in Philadelphia". As a matter of fact, the market is flooded with nurses looking for work, especially recent nursing grads. Why are so many nurses here pounding the pavements daily looking for work? Well, it appears that many hospitals have decided to close entire departments (such as Maternity) laying off staff and forcing pregnant women to travel MILES further for care at other facilities. Other hospitals are laying off nurses left and right, especially those that HAVE experience in order to cut costs. Also, it's been announced recently that a hospital that has been serving the community for over 50 years is shutting it's doors completely and is in the process of downsizing drastically! Of course, another explanation for the overflow of nurses is the current economic situation which is forcing nurses to "cling" onto their jobs for dear life leaving few openings for newcomers. The hospital I work at currently has cut back on benefits in hopes of preventing further lay-offs. That sucks, but at least we are working. I wonder if socializing healthcare will be the "fix" or the "doom" for the nursing profession.
    Last edit by mommiksa on Apr 6, '09 : Reason: added comment
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