Nurse refused to give CPR

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    "Nurse refused to give CPR to elderly woman who later died"

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...ater-died.html

    Have you guys seen this? It's quickly making national news. What would you do in this situation? Also, in your experience is it common for assisted living facilities to not administer CPR and to wait for 911 responders?
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    That is very interesting.. The company admitted it is their policy to call 911 and wait with the resident. So technically the nurse followed company policy. It seems as if you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. However, I can't understand as a nurse that you could just sit there and not do CPR... That would be very hard for me.
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    I am not sure why they have nurses on staff at the facility then. Anyone could wait with a resident and do nothing until help arrives. But a nurse is bound by her license to do something. There must be more to this story--perhaps the resident was a DNR and hopefully the nurse had a copy of that in hand? In any event, as a nurse that is restricted in scope, and in between a rock and a hard place as far as my license and ethical duties vs. company policy I am not sure that I would be the least bit comfortable with a job like that.
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    If their clientele know this rule, and still sign on the dotted line, it is what it is. And you need to be asystolic and not breathing for CPR, yes?
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Mar 3, '13
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    I just saw/heard that on the news. Both 911 operator & nurse just sounded super stressed trying to get their point across. Hope more background story comes forth in the coming days.
    The newscaster stated the daughter of deceased had no complaints.
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    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...ses-to-do-cpr/

    Apparently, per facility protocol, this nurse called EMS for an elderly woman in respiratory distress, then flat-out refused to administer CPR or to even hand the phone to someone who was willing to initiate it.

    The patient died.

    I think I'm still in shock after hearing the 911 call. Thoughts?
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    Until I know all the facts, it is hard to decide what to believe.
    There is more missing in this story than what is being told.
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    The article does not mention a DNR which is the most important aspect of the story. CPR seldom works anyway, it just prolongs the inevitable. Death comes to us all no matter what.
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    I agree. Really most of the time, it doesn't matter who actually was involved, they will call that person "a nurse". Could have been a housekeeper for all we know.

    Assisted living facilities, really often have no medical at all. All they supposedly promise is someone will "look after you" - which means like a neighbor (not even that) doing a well-being check. Have you been eating, etc., did you fall in your bathroom - they'll call 911 for you, etc. Often it's up to the person living there to get their own care upgraded in some way eg move into a nursing home if need be. IMHO, people assume a lot more than those places ever intend to offer residents. Far too often they are just an expensive scam.
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    It does mention at the bottom that the resident did not have a DNR order.
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