Nurse posts brain surgery pics on Facebook - page 6

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    Quote from Lu13
    For me, it's not about HIPAA, it's about having respect for your patients.

    Thank you - exactly.

    A person is in that most vulnerable of situations.........
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    Quote from cjcsoon2brn
    The direct harm that the nurse did by posting these pictures to Facebook is that she violated that patients trust in health care workers. That patient came to the hospital and expected that while they were being treated all hospital workers would respect the patient's privacy, which would include not taking pictures of the patient and posting them on Facebook. It doesn't matter that the pictures were non-identifying it still means that the nurse personally violated that patient's right to privacy. In my opinion, had the nurse simply just asked the patient to be able to use pictures from the surgery to share with colleagues or educational purposes then this wouldn't be an issue (even if posting them to Facebook is in bad taste.)

    !Chris
    then perhaps a confession should be made to the pt by this nurse...
    and let the pt decide this nurse's fate.
    if the pt decides, "no biggie", then let the nurse get off with a serious warning.

    btw, workingforskies makes some great points.

    leslie
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    Quote from RetiredTooSoon
    From the UKTelegraph...

    Her job at a hospital in Stockholm is now at risk after she put 14 photos from a brain surgery and a back operation to her account on the popular social networking site...
    The patients could not be identified from the photos, which have now been deleted from her internet page, but staff at the hospital have had an emergency meeting to remind them about patient privacy.
    The woman, who has been suspended, is said to be "devastated" by her actions. It seems she wanted to impress her friends with her high powered job.
    How do we know that was her intent? Did she say that?
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    and how did she take pictures w/o anyone else noticing???

    leslie
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    Quote from earle58
    then perhaps a confession should be made to the pt by this nurse...
    and let the pt decide this nurse's fate.
    if the pt decides, "no biggie", then let the nurse get off with a serious warning.

    btw, workingforskies makes some great points.

    leslie
    That would be a hospital's lawyers worst nightmare. Unfortunately, the way to deal with this kind of problem is to set an example. This nurse's action was hopefully just a momentary lapse of judgement. What if, however, she got off because the pt thought it was "no biggie" and she or her coworkers did not learn a lesson. The next time this incident occured it could result in a lawsuit against the facility.

    Quote from earle58
    and how did she take pictures w/o anyone else noticing???

    leslie
    If she was in there taking pictures while the MD was cutting I say fire them both (unfortunately not freaking likely), otherwise if it turns out she stole the pics from the record then fire her AND charge her with theft.
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    Quote from MursingMale
    That would be a hospital's lawyers worst nightmare. Unfortunately, the way to deal with this kind of problem is to set an example. This nurse's action was hopefully just a momentary lapse of judgement. What if, however, she got off because the pt thought it was "no biggie" and she or her coworkers did not learn a lesson. The next time this incident occured it could result in a lawsuit against the facility.
    i do know how stupid this act was.
    i understand the legalities and subsequent liabilities.
    i especially understand the disrespect and breaking of trust.

    yet...workingforskies does make some very valid points.
    brain tissue is not identifiable.
    so, she really didn't expose anyone's identity.
    and based on those facts, i see what workingforskies is saying.

    but clearly, the nurse needs to be disciplined.
    but let's make sure the punishment fits the crime.

    leslie
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    Quote from earle58
    but clearly, the nurse needs to be disciplined.
    but let's make sure the punishment fits the crime.
    I actually think her punishment does fit the crime. It does not say that she had her license stripped, only that she was fired. I do not mean to make light of the action, but it certainly is not the end of the world. I have not had the pleasure, but I have known several good nurses that had made mistakes in the past and were terminated for them. Fortunately they were able to bounce back (and isn't a hallmark of nursing the ability to be flexible?) and by the time I had known them they were back working on the floor. Hopefully this nurse will be able to as well.
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    Quote from MursingMale
    I actually think her punishment does fit the crime. It does not say that she had her license stripped, only that she was fired. I do not mean to make light of the action, but it certainly is not the end of the world. I have not had the pleasure, but I have known several good nurses that had made mistakes in the past and were terminated for them. Fortunately they were able to bounce back (and isn't a hallmark of nursing the ability to be flexible?) and by the time I had known them they were back working on the floor. Hopefully this nurse will be able to as well.
    I agree with Earle58, this nurse had a momentary lapse in judgment that needs to be punished. So lets make sure the punishment fits the crime. I agree with MursingMale that her being fired is a fitting punishment. She is getting fired not hung in the town square, she still has her license and will just have to find another job. She needs to pick herself up, learn from her mistake and go find another job (and possibly take a course in ethics.)

    !Chris
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    Quote from workingforskies
    Seriously folks, I have seen a lot of responses to this issue, from the asinine to the sublime. But I have yet to see one response that directly answers my question, what direct harm was done in what that nurse did?
    Please see my post about breaking sterile field and jeopardizing pt health in a *tangible way.
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    Quote from NurseRivera
    Please see my post about breaking sterile field and jeopardizing pt health in a *tangible way.

    That was never a stated issue. I have observed 2 or 3 surgeries in my career. Never was I required to "scrub in". I was far enough that if I wanted to take pics with a non sterile camera, i could have.

    So I will ask again. What tangible harm was caused to that specific patient by posting non identifying pictures of her brain on line?


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