Nurse murdered in Windsor hospital

  1. http://www.canada.com/hamilton/news/...4-02a5e56d9301

    Really, really awful...
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  2. 14 Comments

  3. by   sirI
    Quote from student_girl
    That link took more than one step for me, student_girl. Here is the direct link to the Windsor story:


    http://www.canada.com/windsor/windso...4-02a5e56d9301


    I remember my mother talking about the Richard Speck murders of 8 nursing students. This horrible crime happened in 1966, many years before I was to even graduate from highschool. She did not want me seeking nursing as a career.

    This story in Windsor is very sad, indeed. The physician involved must be really disturbed.
  4. by   DusktilDawn
    Hi to all,
    I live in Windsor, and I worked at Hotel-Dieu Grace Hospital for 13 years until 2003. I did not personally know Lori Dupont, although I know many that still work Hotel-Dieu Grace, some of who knew and worked with her. I find it so tragic that one so young is now gone, leaving behind an eight year old daughter, 2 siblings, and both her parents, because of the act of another. My heart and prayers go out the Dupont family.

    My heart and prayers also go out the spouse and children of the "unnamed suspect", because their lives have also been devastated by this doctor's actions. Officially this doctor's name has not been released, unofficially it is not a secret in Windsor who he is. Right now he is on life-support, it is unknown to what extent he may have suffered brain damage or what his prognosis will be. He has been transferred to another hospital in Ontario for his safety.

    Unfortunately I do feel that more could have been done to protect Lori Dupont. This is just my own opinion about the suspect, he was more than a little odd/strange. This woman feared for her safety because of him prior to being slain.

    I hope that in the future, if another woman finds herself in Lori Dupont's position, any and all steps will be taken to protect her.

    http://www.canada.com/windsor/windso...6-68a1f7722aa0
    http://www.canada.com/windsor/windso...a-ec694b91769d
    http://www.canada.com/windsor/windso...d-31fa2d72b4e0
  5. by   Indy
    Now imagine trying to be the nurse caring for that anesthesiologist in ICU. I know I couldn't do it.
  6. by   slinkeecat
    Such a tragedy..... God bless their families.....
  7. by   MacNurse
    FYI: the doctor in this case just died this morning. He was moved to a hospital in London, Ont. I saw on the news last night that he had a hypoxic brain injury. Very sad for everyone involved.

    http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...der051115.html
  8. by   GalRN
    Just a thought... it's not because the woman was a nurse that she was killed. It was because she had a relationship w/ an unstable and abusive man. It speaks to the fact that we need to find a way to protect people who are victims of abusive relationships in general.... not just nurses.
  9. by   DusktilDawn
    Quote from Galadriel724
    Just a thought... it's not because the woman was a nurse that she was killed. It was because she had a relationship w/ an unstable and abusive man. It speaks to the fact that we need to find a way to protect people who are victims of abusive relationships in general.... not just nurses.
    That is true, she wasn't killed because she was a nurse. Agreed, things need to change to protect people who are victims in an abusive relationship.

    In this case, Marc Daniels tried to commit suicide in February over the breakup of this relationship, Lori Dupont saved his life. Marc Daniels was also trying to extort money from Lori Dupont using compromising photos in regards to a house they purchased together, he also contacted her parents and threatened to have these photos distributed. Lori Dupont found one of these photos on her car. In February after his suicide attempt, Marc Daniels had his privileges suspended and was ordered to seek anger management and other counselling. He resumed practice at the hospital in June. Concerns were voiced about his behavior from nurses, doctors and other staff. Lori Dupont filed a restraining order in April alleging "threatening conduct", the hosptial administrators apparently supported her in this and were providing assistance. The hearing for this peace bond was set for December, because Marc Daniels contested it.

    I've met Marc Daniels in a work related capacity. Long before he ever met Lori Dupont it was known that he could be verbally abusive towards staff. I also worked at this facility for 13 years before leaving. Windsor also has a shortage of anesthetists (shortage of medical specialists period). I somehow think that if this situation had occurred in a different workplace setting, it would have been handled differently.
    http://www.canada.com/windsor/windso...4-c3ff0d5bb295
    http://www.canada.com/windsor/windso...a-450998558ba8
    http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...rse051114.html
  10. by   nurse4theplanet
    Quote from Indy
    Now imagine trying to be the nurse caring for that anesthesiologist in ICU. I know I couldn't do it.
    I could only wish for that! I would do the best I could for him, just to see justice served in the end. He will either go to jail and face his crimes, or he will live a terrible dependent life with all sorts of medical problems due to se of toxicity damage...which would be preferrable to me. I don't like to see suffering, but in this case it may be deserved...i just feel terrible for the families that have to pick up these pieces. God Bless them and God Bless Lori...may she rest in peace.
    Last edit by nurse4theplanet on Nov 17, '05
  11. by   GingerSue
    this is such a tragedy

    what could have been done to prevent this?

    if he had gone for counselling re: anger management (as had been recommended to him), perhaps this could have been prevented.

    why did he not go for counselling?

    how can counselling be introduced for someone who won't go?

    for Lori - what could she have done differently - looking back to the time when she tried to break up with him and he then made a suicide attempt? When she was realizing that she no longer wanted the relationship to continue, how could she have changed things? Even at the point of beginning the relationship, what could she have done to determine if he had various undesirable tendencies?
  12. by   DusktilDawn
    Quote from GingerSue
    this is such a tragedy

    what could have been done to prevent this?

    if he had gone for counselling re: anger management (as had been recommended to him), perhaps this could have been prevented.

    why did he not go for counselling?

    how can counselling be introduced for someone who won't go?

    for Lori - what could she have done differently - looking back to the time when she tried to break up with him and he then made a suicide attempt? When she was realizing that she no longer wanted the relationship to continue, how could she have changed things? Even at the point of beginning the relationship, what could she have done to determine if he had various undesirable tendencies?
    Hi GingerSue,
    The hospital had ordered anger management and other counselling when Marc Daniels' privileges were suspended in February of this year. There have been no statements released by the hospital as to whether or not Marc Daniels every completed counselling, nor are any statements being released as to the results of that counselling. His priviledges were reinstated in June. They felt they had no grounds to fire him.

    The peace bond sought by Lori Dupont may have been her attempt to stop harassing behavior on the part of Marc Daniels. She may not have even realized the mortal danger she was in. A peace bond wouldn't have given her protection against someone who was determined to end her life.
    http://www.canada.com/windsor/windso...c-d5021821b06e
    http://www.canada.com/windsor/windso...d-7c20cc553045
  13. by   GingerSue
    and so a peace bond won't help
    what would the police have been able to do for her if she had gone to them?

    I suppose her options would have been to be on the move, find a different job, live somewhere else - if she considered him such a danger - not fair - but maybe more realistic?
    somehow that doesn't seem right either - since he's the victimizer - he needed more effective help

    (sorry but it's reminding me of another relatively recent situation where I live in which a woman's male co-worker was harassing her, she notified the employer, they staggered her work-leaving time, but he kidnapped her anyway in the parkade downtown, took her to his home, and murdered her)

    there has to be something better for people who are being harassed
  14. by   DusktilDawn
    The thing is, peace bonds can be implemented immediately IF IT CAN BE PROVEN IT'S AN EMERGENCY. I guess what bothers about this is that IT IS THE VICTIM that has to prove it's an emergent situation. When a peace bond is broken, the violator can face up to 2 years in jail. It just seems that unless the perpetrator stays within certain guidelines, very little can be done. The time the perpetrator chooses to cross those lines, it may be the victims last day on earth.
    I suppose her options would have been to be on the move, find a different job, live somewhere else - if she considered him such a danger - not fair - but maybe more realistic?
    somehow that doesn't seem right either - since he's the victimizer - he needed more effective help
    Moving away, finding a different job, may be seen as prudent and realistic, but in a way the victim is penalized for being a victim. I agree, the victimizer needed more effective help in this situation.
    (sorry but it's reminding me of another relatively recent situation where I live in which a woman's male co-worker was harassing her, she notified the employer, they staggered her work-leaving time, but he kidnapped her anyway in the parkade downtown, took her to his home, and murdered her)

    there has to be something better for people who are being harassed
    Don't apologize GingerSue, I agree there has to be something better for people who are being harassed. In this situation alot could have been done to protect Lori Dupont in the workplace, however it would not have stopped any attack outside of the work situation.

    A lot of how I feel about this situation has to with the fact that I also worked at this facility and I was the victim of someone who was stalking me over the phone (this was late 80's, just as caller ID was being introduced) and this stalker also worked there. When I sought help from the police I inquired about tracing these calls, their response was that I change my number to an unlisted number. I was so frustrated and angry. I felt like the situation was treated as a "harmless" prank, this person indicated they knew where I lived, was specific in regards to things that happened at work, called me in the morning on days I was scheduled to work to let me know "he'd see me later," and threatened physical violence. All this information was relayed to the police and their response was "change you number."

    What may have been different if Lori Dupont had gone to the police? Good question. Would they have been able to effectively protect her? Or have laws changed so little, that it still takes an act of agression before something is done.

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