Nurse, hospital sued in baby's death - page 2
This just made it to the news here in the Atalnta area. Very scary. Nurse, hospital sued in baby's death A new nurse who flunked her board exams was left unsupervised at Atlanta Medical... Read More
Nov 8, '06Quote from IndyI was wondering about this. In California, you can work under an RN with an Interim Permit but, if you flunk your boards, the IP is immediately revoked and you can only work as an aide, tech or whatever until you pass.Georgia does not do temporary licenses for graduate nurses. You work as a tech, extern, whatever they want to call you, until you pass boards.
If Georgia doesn't even have IP's then, this sounds like an illegal situation all the way around.
:typingLast edit by Sheri257 on Nov 8, '06
Nov 8, '06Quote from HappyNurse2005Yeah ... they're like HCA ... although they probably have an even worse reputation.Is Tenet an organization, such as HCA?
never heard of it
Tenet is famous for scandals, massive fraud and overall ... poor care.
Nov 8, '06At one time, years back, Georgia did have temporary licenses- that was when everyone went to the same place and took State Boards with pencil and paper. They were only given twice a year. The temporary license was no longer good if you took and failed boards, even then, and those who failed worked as techs or aides until passing boards.
I think the temporary license stopped when the NCLEX changed to a computerized test you could take at any time.
Nov 8, '06ga regs:
(6) application for licensure by examination for repeat writers:
(a) an applicant who fails the licensing examination is not eligible for a license or for
practice as a registered professional nurse in georgia.
(b) an applicant who fails the licensing examination must complete a new application
accompanied by the required fee.
authority o.c.g.a. secs. 43-26-4, 43-26
if you do not pass the nclex-rn, you may access the web site for a repeat application for licensure-us by exam to reapply or contact the georgia board of nursing at (478) 207-2440 for a new application .
you must pass the nclex-rn within a three (3) year period from the date of your graduation (graduates of u.s. nursing education programs) or from your date of eligibility (graduates of out-of-country nursing education programs).
Nov 10, '06Scary story from each participant's perspective! A cautionary tale to me as a preceptor -- not that I have EVER left a preceptee alone for more than 10 minutes, but this reinforces the reasons why! I wonder if this poor girl was just thinking that she needed to "prove herself" by handling the situation on her own -- not realizing how emergent it actually was.
Nov 10, '06You know, as I was reading this, OB was the quarter I had before graduating. Even still though, working under someone else, I would think it would be common knowledge that if a heart rate drops, and stays, she needed to go find someone and atleast ask. I know I would have in that situation, even as an LPN.
It's common for the heart rate to drop during contractions correct? But they come back up. I think this new grad or whatever ... may have failed her boards for a reason. I would have rather looked stupid and asked a dumb question, which I did many times during my clinicals, than have risked the death of a newborn or possibly the mother also. She should be held responsible to some extent. The preceptor, should be also. That new grad is working under her license, and there's no way in heck if I was her I'd leave her for 2 hours with a mother in labor. No way. Not under my license. An all around bad situation that makes me feel sorry for everyone, nurses and the family alike.
Nov 10, '06This is probably going to get REALLY ugly! I guess I'd put a large part of the blame on the preceptor AND the facility.
Nov 10, '06If you pass the boards you are a nurse, registered nurse through NCLEX. If you do NOT pass the boards you are NOT a nurse. You are a person with a NURSING DEGREE/EDUCATION who is not licensed to practice. I don't know who let this poor person practice without a license or sit pass as a GN, if I were the preceptor I'd be really upset because you count on your facility to make sure the person you are in charge of is eligible for the experience. Tenet sounds like HCA - both are poor excuses for hospitals and a front to make money. The HCA facility I was in tested people for anything and everything as long as insurance covered it. Insurance runs out, patient gets "cured". It's a miracle....
Nov 11, '06Quote from GLN35I was wondering, is it okay for a GN who flunked her boards to be working as a GN? Here in PA if you flunk your boards, you are to stop working as a GN IMMEDIATELY, if not sooner. The BON also sends you a letter stating that. Is this the same in Atlanta?A new nurse who flunked her board exams was left unsupervised at Atlanta Medical Center to watch over a woman who was about to give birth — with deadly consequences.
Never mind answering this - I found the answer.Last edit by Markthemalenurse on Nov 11, '06
Nov 12, '06Quote from angel337There are some people who will threaten to sue for any reason. It doesn't mean they can, or have a right to. In this case, however, there is a dead baby. If the baby's death could have been prevented, it should have been. This is about much more than being sued.there is a constant threat of possibly doing something wrong, no matter how small it is and the next thing you know you're in court. so sad. i know a nurse who was threatened to be sued because she gave a med an hour late.
Nov 12, '06Quote from Miss_ChybilAnd, from what I've been reading ... OB and peds are the areas where there's the highest risk of being sued since, obviously, lawyers can get more damages than with an elderly patient.There are some people who will threaten to sue for any reason. It doesn't mean they can, or have a right to. In this case, however, there is a dead baby. If the baby's death could have been prevented, it should have been. This is about much more than being sued.
I don't know if it's like this in other states but, in California, if a child suffers damages during birth and the parents don't sue in time, that child can also sue you once they reach 18.
Guess I won't be working OB or peds.
:typingLast edit by Sheri257 on Nov 12, '06
Nov 12, '06I think it's premature to point fingers at the preceptor. For all we know, she might have had a heavy assignment of her own, with her own pts. having problems. She might have clearly told her preceptee (who shouldn't have even been there in the first place) to come get her if there were any problems. The preceptee might have waited until things really went south before getting the preceptor. How far into her orientation was the preceptee? It's not unusual for preceptors to step back toward the end of a new nurse's orientation and tell the new nurse to get the preceptor for questions/problems.
One thing is clear: this individual who failed boards had no business remaining in a new grad position. The hospital should have removed her from her position the second her board results were known.
It's also a cautionary tale to preceptors: Do so at your own peril. If something goes bad, be prepared to take the blame from everyone, including your preceptee. If the person you're precepting doesn't keep you informed, report it. Write it up, if necessary. Don't let yourself become the sacrificial lamb.
Nov 12, '06I want to be a L&D nurse, but at the facility I work at you have to have at least a year or more general med/surg experience before going into OB. I interviewed for a position before graduating and was told I would be a great L&D nurse once I had some experience and to apply for another position after a year or so. So I am getting my experience now, I already have over a year now, but no postions have opened up yet. When we had preceptorships after graduating we could not do it in any specialized area, such as OB and ICU. I think these are good rules to help prevent tradgedies like this.