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- Jan 21, '11 by RubyRN,CHPNThank you Nurse Karen for providing important information to this discussion. Judging by posts on this thread, and from what I observe in my practice I am beginning to wonder if they are teaching professional boundaries in nursing school or are they in such a rush to pump out nurses, they skip it. Hmmm....makes me wonder.
- Jan 21, '11 by madwife2002I work in a hemodialysis unit I know of nurses and tech's who have sexual relationships with their patients out side their work place, some even live together and get married.
Is this unexceptable? Just curiousLast edit by madwife2002 on Jan 21, '11
- Jan 21, '11 by madwife2002
karen some of these descriptions actually made me sick to my stomach i just cannot imagine a health care professional doing this stuff to their patients! the fact that they are state laws makes you understand that all these thingshave happened to poor patients in the past!
it is abhorent
- Jan 21, '11 by HorseshoeQuote from RubyRN,CHPNI share your apprehension. Some of the posts in this thread, which are presumably written by nurses, are very disturbing.Thank you Nurse Karen for providing important information to this discussion. Judging by posts on this thread, and from what I observe in my practice I am beginning to wonder if they are teaching professional boundaries in nursing school or are they in such a rush to pump out nurses, they skip it. Hmmm....makes me wonder.
- Jan 21, '11 by eriksolnQuote from madwife2002Yes, it is "unacceptable".I work in a hemodialysis unit I know of nurses and tech's who have sexual relationships with their patients out side their work place, some even live together and get married.
Is this unexceptable? Just curious
Even if you take the monetary gains out of it, the pt. is still being abused/taken advantage of. I know many people out there with more than a few personality/behavioral shortcomings that keep them from being in a healthy EQUAL relationship.
Take your co-workers for example. OK, they got married. Chances are, they never would have been married except for entering a relation with someone who was mesmerized by their care. That is taking advantage of the patient. A person who otherwise can not find reasonable relations uses their care to gain a relation with someone they otherwise would not have. It is not a fair relation because the person brought into it by the caregiver is making decisions based on a relation that should remain professional. They are given care, a "feeling" of love develops and bang......they are married. That feeling of love is not true love nor is it moral to use it against them.
The problem with the situations you describe is, what about all the other patients who the caregiver is not falling in love with? Is their care compromised because there are no Long Term or sexual feelings involved. I don't know them personally but I can pretty much guess the answer. You would have a hard time selling it to me that the care everyone else received was the same as the one they fell in love with.
NOT what we signed up for.
- Jan 21, '11 by NRSKarenRNQuote from madwife2002i work in a hemodialysis unit i know of nurses and tech's who have sexual relationships with their patients out side their work place, some even live together and get married.
is this unexceptable? just curious
there is a difference if one is already in a relationship and person gets sick, needs dialysis then seeks treatment at facility where loved one works. under most states nursing regs, it is a violation of nurse practice act to engage in sexual relationships with patient when you met client at workplace and then developed sexual relationship with them while actively treating them, even though activity occurring outside workplace.
managers should discuss professional boundaries periodically with staff and warn staff consequences of such actions ...especially in outpatient settings- put it on yearly topic agenda. staff then can not come back to manager accusing them of knowing about law but not informing staff.
rn's also have a duty to report inappropriate conduct to management and bon when they have specific info about situation, just not hearsey.
1. a nurse or unlicensed assistive personnel (uap) shall not engage or attempt to engage a former client, or former client’s immediate family member or significant other, in sexual or romantic conduct if such conduct would constitute abuse of the nurse/patient relationship. the nurse/patient relationship is abused when a nurse or nursing technician uses and/or benefits from the nurse’s professional status and the vulnerability of the client due to the client’s condition or status as a patient.
Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Jan 22, '11 : Reason: spelling
- Jan 21, '11 by SitcomNurse[QUOTE=heron;4742429]Have you ever seen end-stage ALS? If he's impaired enough to qualify for hospice, he's pretty dependent on his caregivers for his comfort and quality of life.
Because of this dependence and the tranference phenomenon, the patient's ability to give true consent is pretty limited and easily coerced. This dependence exists whether the nurse is "on duty" or not.
I wish I could give you a thousand Kudos.
Where is teh palce that is "outside the work enviornment" for a home care or even in facility hopsice patient, where he is not with staff or caregivers?
Either she volunteered for the family and took him out, or they were in the work enviornment at all times.
And if she took him out, who gave consent for that?
- Jan 21, '11 by bonnett9This stuff should not be public knowledge. Can anybody keep thier sex life private anymore?
- Jan 21, '11 by Spidey's momQuote from bonnett9This isn't someone's sex life. This is abuse of the nurse/patient relationship.This stuff should not be public knowledge. Can anybody keep thier sex life private anymore?
An abuse of trust.
And should be public knowledge and should be punished.
- Jan 21, '11 by smily nurseyou have GOT to be kidding me..... if I had had sex with every old and young pt that had approached me........ we are suppose to be professionals!!!