Number of Philippine Nurses Emigrating Skyrockets - page 4

The Philippines exports 15,000 nurses a year, and it's estimated that 1 in 10 Filipinos now works abroad. The nursing drain could have a crippling effect on the Philippines healthcare system. ... Read More

  1. by   madi_88
    [QUOTE=jayrelic]My take on things -

    Yes, you are quite correct - sad isn't it?
  2. by   Rep
    Sad isn't it? I wonder where this apply since the hiring of foreign nurses is the making of big business. But there are rules/laws in place to protect these foreign nurses. Foreign nurses are a minority in the nursing profession and do not have the political voice as American nurses do. Use that voice instead of blaming us. The way I see as long you are against the hiring of foreign nurses then you are blaming us for all the evils that are happening in the nursing workplace in the US like low wages, poor ratios, etc.

    The demand for foreign nurses will still continue whether you like it or not.
  3. by   Nurseferatu
    Did you hear the one about the nurse that threatened to stab a co-worker with a syringe full of HIV- contaminated blood because the co-worker sat in her chair?

    What about the one where one nurse slept with another nurse's husband because the other nurse got a promotion that she wanted.

    Oh, did I mention none of the nurses involved were Filipino?

    Labelling a nation of people wicked or evil is so unnecessary. If you need to tack on labels, why don't we just say that we all have the propensity to do bad things and leave it at that. Let's just say that backstabbing, ignorance and arrogance are part of the human psyche.

    Who's casting the first stone now?



    Quote from marymary
    Hi
    I have researched the Filipines as a group of people long ago, and so I am well aware of their strong cultural history. They are to be commended, as are other peoples that immigrate to the United States. But they are the only group that I know that treat their co-workers with such wickness in the workforce. It is not all but a handful, but the handful seems to control the whole especially when there is a large number on an entire wing working. I hope that my comments will spark some thought in those that do come here to live or make this country their permanent home. It is very important that we all treat each other with respect and as part of a working healthcare team. We all strive for the same goal: welfare and good health of the patient.
    :hatparty:
  4. by   marymary
    Quote from maribel
    i can't imagine why does some people, or good nurses from USA cannot render service or the "TLC" of filipino nurse! maybe ur government is not contented on the service that they get from u! cant u be happy why do philippine government is allowing our best nurses to exit here and work for ur people! are u trying to put us down?!! life here is very hard, and if we dont have any dreams of going abroad our love ones will die with an empty stomach!
    just give grace to the lord that you are living in a rich country unlike us here! know what, if i were u, i'll be thankful that there are nurses from philippines who are willing to care for ur people, willing to wash their *** in exchange of their needs! if you will just only ask every single overseas filipino worker in every part of the world, we don't want to leave our country... we love to live and die here... but the sad thing is... we have poor leadership. you're very lucky....don't put us down... i'm a student nurse, dont make me feel that i'm another trash...
    Learn to completely read material before you react. No one is trying to insult or put you or the Filipino people down. It is about negative behavior please keep that in mind, it is not personal.
  5. by   Nurseferatu
    Quote from marymary
    Learn to completely read material before you react. No one is trying to insult or put you or the Filipino people down. It is about negative behavior please keep that in mind, it is not personal.
    ...and that is exactly my point. What a shame that a discussion beginning with cold hard facts had to be injected with a slur. Everyone has the potential of being the most horrible, rudest and meanest human being, but when you add a name to those traits, how can anyone, Filipino or not, not take it personally? Please be a little more sensitive.
  6. by   ethelbsnrn
    Whoever reads this thread, Filipino or not, the bottom line is...(and will always be)...racial discrimination. I have read a lot of postings in this board with the same subject and the same thing comes out...that Filipinos are not needed in this country that is desperate of nurses. I am just tired of all the insults that were thrown towards Filipinos and them speaking out to defend themselves. When will this end?
  7. by   marymary
    Quote from TxScrubs
    Did you hear the one about the nurse that threatened to stab a co-worker with a syringe full of HIV- contaminated blood because the co-worker sat in her chair?

    What about the one where one nurse slept with another nurse's husband because the other nurse got a promotion that she wanted.

    Oh, did I mention none of the nurses involved were Filipino?

    Labelling a nation of people wicked or evil is so unnecessary. If you need to tack on labels, why don't we just say that we all have the propensity to do bad things and leave it at that. Let's just say that backstabbing, ignorance and arrogance are part of the human psyche.

    Who's casting the first stone now?
    I can comment on my own personal experiences. I have that right, and I have several friends that have had similar experiences. That is the privilege of living in America, freedom of speech. I also have some wonderful friends that are Filipino. But like I mentioned before I am not talking about the entire group of people only the group that worked with me that were evil, not all. You are misinterpreting the message.
    Last edit by marymary on Feb 16, '05
  8. by   jayrelic
    I think it's in everyone's best interest to just let this post die.
  9. by   Rep
    Quote from jayrelic
    I think it's in everyone's best interest to just let this post die.
    Yes, so those other threads about Filipino/foreign nurses and foreign recruitment.

    Somebody posted earlier that we are in a lion's den and I agree with her.
  10. by   maribel
    Quote from marymary
    Learn to completely read material before you react. No one is trying to insult or put you or the Filipino people down. It is about negative behavior please keep that in mind, it is not personal.


    OK FINE!!! MY TWO HANDS UP NOW!! GOODBYE INTELLIGENT, DECENT PEOPLE! I'LL JUST STUDY! THANKS ANYWAY! IT'S BEEN A GOOD TIME....
  11. by   Nurseferatu
    Quote from marymary
    I can comment on my own personal experiences. I have that right, and I have several friends that have had similar experiences. That is the privilege of living in America, freedom of speech. I also have some wonderful friends that are Filipino. But like I mentioned before I am not talking about the entire group of people only the group that worked with me that were evil, not all. You are misinterpreting the message.
    Oh I don't think I am. But whatever your feelings or experiences, more power to you MaryMary. I appreciate different perspectives.
  12. by   DGasMan
    Quote from marymary
    I can comment on my own personal experiences. I have that right, and I have several friends that have had similar experiences. That is the privilege of living in America, freedom of speech. I also have some wonderful friends that are Filipino. But like I mentioned before I am not talking about the entire group of people only the group that worked with me that were evil, not all. You are misinterpreting the message.
    You are absolutely correct, you have the right and freedom to speak your mind. But that does not give you the right to malign Filipinos just because you and some of your friends have had bad experiences with the few of them. Claiming that "they are the only group of people that treat their coworkers with such wickedness in the workforce" is uncalled for and frankly very unprofessional. I wonder what your manager or DON will think if they find out about this thread. For someone who has researched the Philippines and the Filipino culture thoroughly as you claimed, it saddens me to know that your negative impression of them overshadows the good ones that you have mentioned. Remember, once upon a time, our ancestors were foreigners and immigrants to this nation too.

    There, you sparked some thought in me and I just exercised my right and freedom of speech too. I hope you and whoever you had conflict with can resolve your differences and hopefully everything will be copacetic.
  13. by   UnewmeB4
    Quote from lizz
    You're missing a big part of the picture. This is not the same as what happened to the tech industry. Here, foreign nurses have the same cost of living that we do. Overseas tech workers don't. It's the cost of living that matters.

    A hospital may initially hire a foreign nurse for cheap, but they won't take it for long, mostly because they can't afford to live on those wages in the U.S. If a foreign nurse tries to work in California for peanuts, they won't be able to survive. The housing costs alone force foreign nurses to demand better wages. That's why so many quit their jobs after initial training and find better paying jobs elsewhere.

    Besides, all of this is a moot point. With the new government restrictions on visas and the like taking effect this year, foreign nurses won't be flooding the market anytime soon. There's really nothing to worry about.

    I find this all amusing. I know more than one American healthcare workers, as well as former military personnel , who have gone to Saudi Arabia to work..."tax free" for a few years. For them, they will be able to come home and start their own businesses with the money they have earned. Supply and demand.

    Quite honestly, if you gave people their Nursing Education for FREE in the US. , many would come out, hate what they are doing, and quit...and there would still be a shortage.

    I have worked with many Fillipino nurses, and have enjoyed learning about their lives, their healthcare system,etc. Quite frankly, I admire anyone who can leave home, travel to a foreign country, and work in a high stress place. My hat's off to you!

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