No more smoking at work - page 5

while i understand that smoking is still legal in this country, and people have a right to smoke if they want to, i have to say that i love this policy. i really hate the smell of cigarette smoke on... Read More

  1. Visit  ®Nurse profile page
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    Quote from ldnurse2004
    ok so here goes nothing. this is a constant debate and there will never be a winner. smokers vs nonsmokers. i am a smoker and have been for 15 years. i choose to smoke and yes i know the risks/health problems from it. i personally like smoking, do i like smelling like smoke? no, but there are consequences to every action. i clock out for my 15 minute breaks because i leave the campus in order to smoke. i don't have a problem with this. non-smokers get their breaks paid because they choose to stay on campus during that 15 minute break. if they needed to go to the bank or whatever the case may be and they can do it in 15 mins then by all means go! companies are trying to infringe on our rights as us citizens and its not fair. another issue: wearing seatbelts, i choose not to wear mine and i choose to pay the fine everytime i get pulled. if i get in an accident and dont have mine on and get injured or die who did i affect with my choice me and only me!! it makes no sense personally, i agree with other pp mind your own business and the world will be so much better
    question: who did i affect...?
    answer: the poor soul who has to scrape your remains off the road. it's pretty gruesome, very much so.
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  2. Visit  needshaldol profile page
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    Good point OCN. Unless they violate confidentiality there is no way they will know what health decisions one makes. Shame on them. I understand a "so called" catholic hospital not performing abortions but........to tell prespective staff member what they can or cannot do with their own bodies?? I am sure they tell their priests not to touch boys......................
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  3. Visit  littleneoRN profile page
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    You can do whatever you want on your unpaid breaks, but when you're back on the clock you've got to follow their rules, which might include not smelling like smoke. So feel free to smoke, if you can then take a shower and put on a fresh outfit before your breaktime is up. Good luck.

    Also, it may be your unpaid break, but if smoking isn't allowed on campus, it doesn't matter whether you're on the clock or off. Rules are rules.

    Patients often complain about nurses who smell of cigarette smoke. I personally would request a new nurse as smoke exposure is a problem for my asthma. I don't blame other people who feel the same way.
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  4. Visit  rncruzan profile page
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    As a non-smoker I can understand the hostilies regarding smokers leaving on average 4 times a shift to smoke. Our facility is a nonsmoking facility whose no smoking policy rule was lax until the corporate big wig showed up and observed ER members behind a gate smoking. Now, clock out, go off the premises of get fired. Guess, my colleagues (some friends) will just have to chew gum while working...Oh, that's banned also!! I just think that it goes a little too far when a pre-employment screen includes a nicotine test. Yes, you read right...Nicotine Test!!! What's next, no employment if your BMI is < 30.
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  5. Visit  vanburbian profile page
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    Quote from CapeCodMermaid
    You can pull your hair back and it'll still stink of smoke. You can put a gown on and you'll still smell. There is new evidence that 3rd hand smoke is harmful to other people.

    A lot of things are "harmful" to people, including shampoo, soap, makeup, deodorant, plastic cups and drinking bottles, etc.

    As a recovered former smoker, I am on the side of current smokers. I don't like the smell either, but come on, this is ridiculous.

    What is someone supposed to do if they carpool with a smoker? Live with a smoker?

    Get a divorce?? Take the bus, and then what if they sit next to a smoker??

    Nuts.
  6. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    Quote from hoopschick
    A lot of things are "harmful" to people, including shampoo, soap, makeup, deodorant, plastic cups and drinking bottles, etc.

    As a recovered former smoker, I am on the side of current smokers. I don't like the smell either, but come on, this is ridiculous.

    What is someone supposed to do if they carpool with a smoker? Live with a smoker?

    Get a divorce?? Take the bus, and then what if they sit next to a smoker??

    Nuts.
    *** What if you smell like smoke from caring for a patient assigned to you? Some of my patient REEKE of smoke. Some of it will follow me. Would they send me home for doing what I was assigned to do?
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  7. Visit  coolpeach profile page
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    I am a smoker, but I smoke an electronic cigarette at work. They are awesome and do not smell at all. I never leave the floor to smoke because I smoke while I chart. I do smoke at home, but apparently I do something right because no one has ever complained that I smell. I did tell one co worker that I smoked and she was shocked and I sit by her often, and have even hugged her on occasion and she never smelled smoke on me.

    In my honest opinion that I don't understand the break thing. Sometimes I get a break and sometimes I do not. I never leave the floor for breaks, but if I wanted to then its my right to do so because its my break. And for those non smokers who are complaining about breaks...whats up with that. Take your darn break and stop whining. It doesn't matter what everyone else does on their break and its non of your business. If you want a break then tell your co workers your taking a break and take one.
  8. Visit  vanburbian profile page
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    *** What if you smell like smoke from caring for a patient assigned to you? Some of my patient REEKE of smoke. Some of it will follow me. Would they send me home for doing what I was assigned to do?
    I know exactly what you mean. Our bays are pretty small, and when we get someone back, especially during the rainy season ( 75% OF THE TIME AROUND HERE) the smell is all over the room, and lingers for hours. You can't help getting doused when undressing and gowning someone. I can still smell it on my scrubs for several hours.

    Sure, I could go change after each pt. that smokes, but that means another 5 to 8 minute delay, and the waiting room gets backed up, then in all likelihood, I get another smoker, or a family member/visitor who just came in from smoking.

    It is what it is, and all this gestapo like insistence on an employers part about what their employee is or is not allowed to do on UNPAID time, what they can or can't smell like, makes me very nervous. It's appalling.

    Next, it's what they look like.

    Oh, of course it will all be disguised as being beneficial for the employee- just helping them be healthy, and beneficial to the patients- thin, tall muscular and young nurses can adjust pt.'s in bed better, can't they?

    And I'm sure studies will show that waking from anesthesia to a gorgeous, symmetrical face will prove to decrease LOS and complications at some point- so....

    Just saying....postulate the theory as far out as possible.

    Why stop at tobacco users?
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  9. Visit  needshaldol profile page
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    I do not smoke. I never did. I never will. I think it is a disgusting habit. But.....each to their own and I do not preach to patients that smoking is not good for them as management wants us to. Give me a break. They know it is now good for them. My belief is that management needs to STAY OUT of what staff does in their free time. This is not WWII Germany.
  10. Visit  Bortaz, RN profile page
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    Quote from FLmomof5
    isn't that a racist term for white people?
    I've been a white dude for a long time, but I don't think I have ever been deemed a snowflake.


    On topic: I smoked for 26 years, and loved it. I quit because my wife wanted me to, and because I had my first grandbaby and I didn't want to hold that sweet thing with nicotine-stained fingers.

    As a long time smoker, I realized that I stank, but until about 6 weeks after quitting, I didn't realize how BADLY I stank. I was standing just inside the door of a Sprint store, and this dude walked in...man alive, he reeked. My wife noticed the frown on my face and said :Yeah, I know...that's what you used to smell like to everyone else.:
    Last edit by Bortaz, RN on Oct 8, '11
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  11. Visit  Bortaz, RN profile page
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    Quote from rph3664
    Are men also obligated to sign an agreement saying that they will never be responsible for one? I'm pro-life too, but this is really overstepping boundaries IMNSHO.
    How is it overstepping boundaries? That is a Catholic hospital. Catholics don't support abortion. They also don't force people to work there.

    If you choose to work there, you accept their rules, boundaries be damned. If you think it goes too far, you move on down the skreet.
  12. Visit  Bortaz, RN profile page
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    Quote from ldnurse2004
    Another issue: wearing seatbelts, I choose not to wear mine and I choose to pay the fine everytime I get pulled. If I get in an accident and dont have mine on and get injured or die WHO did I affect with my choice ME AND ONLY ME!! It makes no sense personally, I agree with other PP Mind your own business and the world will be so much better
    Unless you can't pay for your medical expenses incurred in the effort to piece your skull back together, and the rest of us have to pick up your slack.
  13. Visit  mindlor profile page
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    Sorry but here it is, any nurse that smokes is a flagrant hypocrite.

    End of story


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