No, Caps Are Not Totally Gone - page 9

Nurse proudly wears the cap that defines her profession If you've visited McKay-Dee Hospital, there's good chance you've seen nurse Linda MacPherson. There are a lot of nurses at the... Read More

  1. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    Quote from careteam70
    The gals in my class feel a little cheated from not getting caps when we graduate, just a pin. We've talked about, just for graduation, bringing back caps (just a matter of finding them and price) I an dthe other male in the class decided we could go without caps or at least we came up with some ideas of a white military style cap, which when I was in the Marines we called "pisscutters", think of the caps gas station attendants used to wear in the 50's and 40's.


    I like that idea!! First time I've seen it proposed, too. Instead of no caps because of the guys, everybody wears a cap!
    As someone who graduated just as the phase-out started, I can relate to them feeling a bit cheated. A cap is such a universal symbol of nursing. Best wishes to you all.
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  2. Visit  POTR profile page
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    Quote from careteam70
    The gals in my class feel a little cheated from not getting caps when we graduate, just a pin. We've talked about, just for graduation, bringing back caps (just a matter of finding them and price) I an dthe other male in the class decided we could go without caps or at least we came up with some ideas of a white military style cap, which when I was in the Marines we called "pisscutters", think of the caps gas station attendants used to wear in the 50's and 40's.
    But, then again, you know that we former military guys are usually uncomfortable wearing any 'uniform' headgear indoors when not "under arms."

    And the white caps also remind me of the milk man of the same era, and at that point (for me at least) compared to pump jockeys and delivery guys, the white paper 'hot dog vendor' hat seems just as good, if not a better choice (at least they are cheap, easily disposable and replaceable for sanitary purposes, and could actually be made in any number of patterns if anyone really wanted to pursue that course). But I suppose for graduation purposes only a nice white garrison cap might be ok.


    IF your gonna wear a cap at work, why not a plain scrub cap?

    And just to mention it, a reasonable facsimile of the Bellevue cap is in the header picture for Kay's right now...
    http://www.kayscaps.com/index.banner.jpg
  3. Visit  RNOTODAY profile page
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    rediculous all she does is look like a person playing dress up as a nurse. a cap? really? and people wonder why sometimes we ae not taken seriously as professionals.
  4. Visit  DoGoodThenGo profile page
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    Quote from RNOTODAY
    rediculous all she does is look like a person playing dress up as a nurse. a cap? really? and people wonder why sometimes we ae not taken seriously as professionals.
    Oh I don't know about that.

    By most media and anecdotal accounts the nursing profession hasn't moved up all that much in terms of being taken "seriously", since widespread ditching of whites (with or without caps) in favour of scrubs. Just look at the current labour actions going on around the United States, or the input (what of it there was), into "Obamacare".

    Finally the dumbing down of the profession continues with new and expanded use of UAPs, many of whom walk around attired in the same scrubs as nurses, with a scope slung around their necks for added measure. It is no wonder patients often complain they do not know who or what manner of person is taking care of them.

    This debate isn't just limited to the USA, but the UK as well, and on both shores despite all the moaning from some in nursing, whites (or in the case of the UK, the old NHS uniforms), are what a majority of the populace associate with a "professional" nurse.

    No one wishes to be ill, much less in hospital, but to suggest they remain passive with no say in regards to whom provides their care, seems rather insulting. Presentation of front line employees,those that deal directly with consumers (that is what patients are called now), is key to the sucess of any business (which is what healthcare is now). It isn't just the "scrubs" issue, but rather a feeling my many in hospital administration that the "casual Fridays" aspect perhaps went a bit too far. Long as Press Ganey ratings matter to those in charge, expect to see any and everything on the table when it comes to nursing "attire" whilst on duty.
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  5. Visit  DoGoodThenGo profile page
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    Quote from POTR
    But, then again, you know that we former military guys are usually uncomfortable wearing any 'uniform' headgear indoors when not "under arms."

    And the white caps also remind me of the milk man of the same era, and at that point (for me at least) compared to pump jockeys and delivery guys, the white paper 'hot dog vendor' hat seems just as good, if not a better choice (at least they are cheap, easily disposable and replaceable for sanitary purposes, and could actually be made in any number of patterns if anyone really wanted to pursue that course). But I suppose for graduation purposes only a nice white garrison cap might be ok.


    IF your gonna wear a cap at work, why not a plain scrub cap?

    And just to mention it, a reasonable facsimile of the Bellevue cap is in the header picture for Kay's right now...
    http://www.kayscaps.com/index.banner.jpg
    Reasonable facsimile, and just that. There are still enough Bellevue grads out there to rise up in arms against anyone peddling the original cap. Can't explain it, you just would have had to gone to the school to understand.
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  6. Visit  RetRN77 profile page
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    Had a cap with black stripe and a pin. The ceremonies were very meaningful. Parents attended, and we carried miniature "Florence" lamps during a candlelight ceremony.

    I loaned my cap to someone who wanted her daughter to wear it to a costume party. She promptly misplaced it, and didn't even seem to think it should matter to me since I wasn't using it at the time. Will always regret loaning it to someone I thought was responsible but who turned out to be plain thoughtless.
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    Quote from RetRN77
    I loaned my cap to someone who wanted her daughter to wear it to a costume party. She promptly misplaced it, and didn't even seem to think it should matter to me since I wasn't using it at the time. Will always regret loaning it to someone I thought was responsible but who turned out to be plain thoughtless.
    What an awful experience! I'm so sorry for your loss.
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  8. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    Quote from RNOTODAY
    rediculous all she does is look like a person playing dress up as a nurse. a cap? really? and people wonder why sometimes we ae not taken seriously as professionals.
    Interesting perspective. A cap was part of the entire dress of a nurse, along with white uniform and white shoes, and usually her school pin. The clothing, even pants, was semi-tailored (fit closer to the body) and had things like collars, belts and button closures.

    Now we have baggy fitting colorful jammies(scrubs), sneakers, plastic Croc shoes, and prints that (though I love prints!) frequently contain cartoon characters, and I've seen Mickey Mouse prints in adult units!! Everyone in the hospital, it seems, wear them. You can color code your employees, but the patients are usually long gone before they have it memorized. The extent to which nurses aren't taken seriously as professionals-- I doubt the cap/no cap issue has anything to do with it at all.
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  9. Visit  Hushdawg profile page
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    Quote from RetRN77
    Had a cap with black stripe and a pin. The ceremonies were very meaningful. Parents attended, and we carried miniature "Florence" lamps during a candlelight ceremony.

    I loaned my cap to someone who wanted her daughter to wear it to a costume party. She promptly misplaced it, and didn't even seem to think it should matter to me since I wasn't using it at the time. Will always regret loaning it to someone I thought was responsible but who turned out to be plain thoughtless.
    That is terrible! Do you have a resource to at least get a replacement of the cap? I hope the pin was not lost as well.

    Worse come worse, send a photo of the cap to me and I'll see if some of the uniform shops here in Manila would be able to reproduce it exactly for you and we could try to get it replaced that way.
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    Quote from DoGoodThenGo
    Reasonable facsimile, and just that. There are still enough Bellevue grads out there to rise up in arms against anyone peddling the original cap. Can't explain it, you just would have had to gone to the school to understand.
    A variation of that cap was worn by graduates of a school in my state - (not NY ) The only difference was the material was quite transparent.

    Our first-year student caps were a variation of the Army cap, only much smaller. All you could see on the tops of our heads from the front was this cupcake sized goofy looking trapezoid shape with a smidgen of pointed material behind the cuff. So embarrassing. It was such a relief to finish that year and receive a traditional style cap that didn't make us look like elves in pink.
  11. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    Quote from RetRN77
    A variation of that cap was worn by graduates of a school in my state - (not NY ) The only difference was the material was quite transparent.

    Our first-year student caps were a variation of the Army cap, only much smaller. All you could see on the tops of our heads from the front was this cupcake sized goofy looking trapezoid shape with a smidgen of pointed material behind the cuff. So embarrassing. It was such a relief to finish that year and receive a traditional style cap that didn't make us look like elves in pink.
    That description is just so darn funny!!! Not sure if it was this thread or the "you know you're old school when. . ." thread, but I mentioned our caps shaped sort of like slightly taller white B-2 Stealth bomber we were supposed to wear perched exactly on the top of our heads. It would have been a bit more tolerable set back a little but ohh lol.

    I love hearing about these experiences. I did not know students wore differently styled caps but I suppose it gave the first-year crowd motivation to succeed and get rid of the things.
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  12. Visit  RetRN77 profile page
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    Quote from Hushdawg
    That is terrible! Do you have a resource to at least get a replacement of the cap? I hope the pin was not lost as well.

    Worse come worse, send a photo of the cap to me and I'll see if some of the uniform shops here in Manila would be able to reproduce it exactly for you and we could try to get it replaced that way.
    Oh, thanks so much Hushdawg! That is so nice of you! The reference for Kay's Caps (where our caps came from) has a very similar cap to ours. It's a very traditional style cap and the only difference from one of the pictured caps is that there is a slight point in the center of the cuff instead of it being straight. I'm also going to email Kay's and see if they have the exact cap on file. However, I so appreciate your very kind offer!

    I still have the pin! No way was anyone getting their hands on that!
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  13. Visit  RetRN77 profile page
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    Quote from nursel56
    That description is just so darn funny!!! Not sure if it was this thread or the "you know you're old school when. . ." thread, but I mentioned our caps shaped sort of like slightly taller white B-2 Stealth bomber we were supposed to wear perched exactly on the top of our heads. It would have been a bit more tolerable set back a little but ohh lol.

    I love hearing about these experiences. I did not know students wore differently styled caps but I suppose it gave the first-year crowd motivation to succeed and get rid of the things.
    LOL - it sure did! No way you want to get left behind in what used to be called the "probationary" group!

    I'm wondering if maybe one of my instructors went to your school. Her cap looked like a tall triangle with upswept ends from the front. From the side, well, it did rather look like a bird or a plane had landed on her head. It also was worn perched flat on top of her head. She went to school in NY state.

    I also have to correct myself on the Bellevue cap. I just saw a picture in one of the earlier parts of the thread - I didn't realize I hadn't seen the whole thread. My other instructor's cap was much smaller than that, and resembled the last cap on the right from the link POTR posted.

    Since I can't wear my cap at present, I will content myself with this. Love it.
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