New Study Shows Nurse Education Level, Caseload Affect Patient Mortality - page 4
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"Nurse staffing and education and hospital mortality in nine European countries: a retrospective observational studySummaryBackgroundAusterity measures and health-system redesign to minimise hospital expenditures risk adversely... Read More
- 2Mar 13 by BostonFNPQuote from MunoRNIn my opinion the data isn't there to make the assumption that the observed outcome is fully linear; this would be limited by the range of staffing ratio and range of %BSN observed in the study, which we don't have the information on. The authors only suggest the reduction in combination, which is interesting because they don't presume to balance one with another. Common sense would tell us that at the extreme ends there would be saturation.That's actually what it says. If you're arguing that this conclusion can't necessarily be drawn from the data then I agree, that's my point. It doesn't directly tie BSNs with lower mortality, but rather composition of BSN nurses, which still allows for the possibility that patients cared for by ADN nurses may also have reduced mortality risk if the percentage of the ADNs' coworkers who hold a BSN increases, although it would seem that the likely explanation would be that BSN nurses are raising the overall average. You are correct that in the BSN composition portion of the findings the number of patients is a constant; given the same patient load, a patient cared for by a nursing staff that is predominately BSN will have lower mortality than one cared for by a nursing staff that is predominately ADN. This is quantified as every 10% increase in BSN nurses produces a 7% decrease in mortality. As a separate finding, the authors report a 7% increase in mortality for each additional surgical patient a nurse cares for. Combine the two findings, which is what the authors do, and you have a formula that says higher proportion BSN staffs can safely take care of more patients; Increasing a nursing workload by one patient increases the risk of mortality by 7%, increasing the number of BSN nurses by 10% can decrease the risk of mortality by the same amount, which means that by increasing the number of BSN nurses one can increase patient loads without altering mortality. I don't think the data can actually be used in that way, it's too dependent on the initial patient load and doesn't change linearly once you hit workload saturation, among other problems, but the example provided in the study certainly suggest the data can actually be used in that way.
- 0Mar 16 by MunoRNQuote from BostonFNPMaybe we're misunderstanding each other, but that's part of the point I've been arguing.In my opinion the data isn't there to make the assumption that the observed outcome is fully linear; this would be limited by the range of staffing ratio and range of %BSN observed in the study, which we don't have the information on.
Quote from BostonFNPThey absolutely due presume to balance one with the other, odds ratios are ratios, by definition they work in both directions. Without any sort of stated limitations to their use, the same odds ratios that they use to claim mortality risk could be reduced by both increasing BSN staff and decreasing work loads, using the inverse of either would have a "balancing" effect (one would cancel out all or part of the other).The authors only suggest the reduction in combination, which is interesting because they don't presume to balance one with another.
Quote from BostonFNPYes, it would, common sense doesn't mesh well with the author's claims.Common sense would tell us that at the extreme ends there would be saturation.