New NYC anti-teen pregnancy campaign....are they being too harsh, or just enough? - page 3

Critics blast NYC's anti-teen pregnancy campaign Just read this article. And I have to admit I am kind of conflicted. On the one hand...Studies have been done showing so many negative... Read More

  1. Visit  azhiker96 profile page
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    Quote from Sadala
    Ads targeting the symptom of a problem are never going to be helpful.

    I'd like to see info on the studies that show a < in pregnancy with these ads if anyone has a link.
    Since the program just started in New York it's a bit early to expect a drop in teen pregnancy. However, there was this from the article in the original post.
    "The teen birth rate in Milwaukee has decreased nearly 35 percent since the inception of this campaign in 2006," Nicole Angresano, vice president of community impact at United Way of Greater Milwaukee, said on TODAY.
    You can read more about the Milwaukee campaign here. Ambitious Anti-Teen Pregnancy Program Seeing Success in Milwaukee

    To meet the city’s 2015 goal, the committee established a two-pronged attack. The first part was a massive public education campaign that consisted of ads that ran on billboards alongside roadways and at public transit stations. Besides the pregnant teenage boy, the advertisements, designed pro bono by a local consulting group, included one that gave a phone number and instructed people to “call for a good time.” When they did, the caller would hear a baby crying. Another ad showed a teen girl with a boa constrictor around her with the words, “What kind of man preys on underage girls?” The ad was meant to address the city’s high rates of statutory rape. Earlier this year, the ad company even helped install baby products in high school vending machines to call attention to the steep costs of raising a child.
    Besides the media campaign, which Barrett calls a success for the outpouring of attention it’s received nationwide, the committee has also reshaped sex education in the city. In the past six years, the city health department has trained more than 1,000 teachers and partnered with schools across the district to create a new health curriculum based on science and tailored for each grade. After three years of test runs, the city’s 80,000 public school students began taking classes under the new system this fall.
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  2. Visit  ProfRN4 profile page
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    Quote from Nurse ABC

    I think the best way to prevent teen pregnancy is by promoting girls ( and guys) to have big goals, self-confidence, and helping them to resist peer pressure. I do watch Teen Mom with my teenage daughter and it in no way glorifies being a teen mom if you watch it. All of these girls have a very tough life having trouble trying to finish their high school education and college while raising a baby as a single mom. They are all sad that their baby daddy relationships aren't working well. The only couple that did stay together gave their baby up for adoption and they are still sad and having a hard time about it 3 yrs later. This show has opened up many conversations with my daughter about how decisions like these can affect the rest of your life. I also think it's important for girls to have a good relationship with their fathers. It's been proven that girls who have fathers that make them feel special and loved (in a healthy way of course) will be less likely to be influenced by a boy telling her that just to get in her pants. I definately think the self-esteem issue and trying to feel loved is the biggest problem in teen pregnancy!
    I agree with you 100%. Regarding the relationship with their fathers, I can only think of one Teen Mom from the 2 shows whose parents are together, and she is a complete witch (putting it kindly for the public forum) to both of her parents. There is only one other one whose father seems to be regularly involved in her life (at least on TV), but her mother seems completely useless useless as a role model (Chelsea).
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  3. Visit  uRNmyway profile page
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    I agree with pretty much everything said on here so far. (Sorry for making the OP and then disappearing lol)

    I think sometimes the brutal facts just need to be put out there. I think these ads target the wrong people. They will end up making those who are already teen parents feel like poop, instead of providing them with the assistance they will need. I think the focus should be on prevention instead of being on making teen parents feel guilty.
    I think it is great that they are putting some emphasis on the role of the father in this issue. Boys need to be aware that it's not just about getting your rocks off. There are consequences. And if you don't care enough to be physically and emotionally involved in rearing a child, you will at the very least be financially responsible.

    I knew a girl in HS who purposely got pregnant at 15 because things were not going well with her bf (who was a complete tool to begin with) and she thought having his baby would force him to stay with her. I kind of wish she had gotten that dose of reality from the get-go. Would it have made any difference? Maybe not. But then there would have been more of an informed decision made.

    I think what I find offensive on top of it all about these ads is just the generalizations they make. Yes, statistically those are just facts. But is it fair to basically tell these parents who are trying to make the best of a bad situation, trying to be responsible after being irresponsible with a lack of protection, that they are dooming their innocent children to a bad future? Again, maybe it's just because of who these ads target. I don't know if there is a way to relay the same general information but with a different target audience (used to re-inforce responsible sexual activity vs. shaming and putting down teen parents)..
  4. Visit  Altra profile page
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    Quote from priorities2
    I think this ad would be highly offensive, for example, to my Hmong friend, who had her first baby at 16 and now at 19 is pregnant again. She has been married since 16 and was doing what was expected of her by her parents by having these children. Further, all of the Hassidic Jews in NYC! That is just one specific cultural subgroup where having a baby at 18-19 is perfectly acceptable. I find these ads to be terribly ethnocentric for such a diverse city, not to mention shaming to both teen mothers AND their innocent children.
    The difference in those subcultures is marriage. There, I said it.
  5. Visit  Altra profile page
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    Quote from Ashley, PICU RN
    I understand what you're saying, but the difference is that both the "don't have sex" and the "use birth control" approach address teen pregnancy before it actually happens. These ads address it after it has occurred or even after the child has been born.
    I truly wonder if we're looking at the same ads ...

    I don't find this campaign offensive at all. I watched the video a second time, and what I see the ads targeting is the subculture of teens who think that avoiding pregnancy may be ideal, but if you do happen to get pregnant ... it will be OK. No, it's not statistically likely to be OK, and that, IMO, is what the ads highlight.
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  6. Visit  priorities2 profile page
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    Quote from Altra
    The difference in those subcultures is marriage. There, I said it.
    Valid point, but these ads conflate pregnancies to teenagers whether they're married or not. The ads are judgmental and shaming to teen parents even if they're married. With people roaming the streets from so many different cultures, the ads are offensive.
  7. Visit  uRNmyway profile page
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    Quote from priorities2
    Valid point, but these ads conflate pregnancies to teenagers whether they're married or not. The ads are judgmental and shaming to teen parents even if they're married. With people roaming the streets from so many different cultures, the ads are offensive.

    So should the ads have a disclaimer or something?

    "If you come from a culture where early pregnancy is acceptable, or if you are married to the parent of your child/child-to-be, please disregard the above message, it doesn't apply to you."

  8. Visit  wish_me_luck profile page
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    I will be honest--when I was in high school, there were girls getting pregnant and having babies. I envied them because the part I saw was everyone gushing over them and the baby; they got to do home schooling; etc. But, not too long after, I started college; started watching small children (including babies) and I began to appreciate being able to be around them and then, being able give them back to the parents!! Plus, I got paid.

    I think teens who want babies should have to volunteer to rock the withdrawing babies at the hospitals when they are born (so, they can get used to the constant crying) and also, do volunteer babysitting (or just babysitting period). Having your own kid...you do not get paid for; actually, if you want to go out and don't have support...you pay out. Parenthood is a 24/7 job. There's no giving the kid back.
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  9. Visit  uRNmyway profile page
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    Completely agree. Did you ever see those episodes of Maury (Shhhh...don't tell anyone I watch that stuff!!) where you have these teens frantically trying to get pregnant? He makes them responsible for a baby or toddler for like 24 hours and most of them decide they aren't ready for it after all.
    And all they've had to do is provide physical care. Imagine when they realize the financial and emotional aspect, on top of being responsible for shaping these little people?
  10. Visit  BlueDevil,DNP profile page
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    I am not generally a fan of shaming young people who are victims of their own poor judgement and probably a lack of support and poor parenting themselves, but I far from offended. I think the ads are fairly dumb and will probably not have much impact on the target audience who are impulsive and believe nothing will ever happen to them: "pregnancy, herpes and the clap only happens to other kids. Besides, it's just this once, we'll get condoms next time."

    I can't tell you how many young women I have put on some kind of birth control only to refer them for an OB provider or an abortion within the year. At least 2 dozen, and I've been in practice less than 4 years. And yeah, I teach them how to use it! Teens are by definition, dumb, irresponsible and impulsive. The do dumb, irresponsible and impulsive stuff. That stuff sometimes has major consequences. Shaming them for it doesn't do anyone a damn bit of good. I don't see the point. Waste of money/resources that would be better directed in a myriad of ways, IMO.
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    Quote from Jeweles26
    So should the ads have a disclaimer or something?

    "If you come from a culture where early pregnancy is acceptable, or if you are married to the parent of your child/child-to-be, please disregard the above message, it doesn't apply to you."

    Public health campaigns should be culturally sensitive, not culturally insensitive with a disclaimer.
  12. Visit  uRNmyway profile page
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    Quote from priorities2

    Public health campaigns should be culturally sensitive, not culturally insensitive with a disclaimer.
    I know, I was being sarcastic because of previous comments regarding cultures where young pregnancy is 'normal'
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  13. Visit  elkpark profile page
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    I like the ads, and would be happy to see more of them. While I'm not a fan of shaming pregnant teens for the sake of shaming them, IMO, we've gone 'waay too far in the opposite direct, of normalizing teen pregnancy out of wedlock. I'm sure there are plenty of teen mothers who "beat the odds" and they and their children turn out fine, and I congratulate them for making the best of a bad situation, but that's not the majority and I think it's only fair to be honest about that.
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