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- Jul 28, '10 by MulticollinearityQuote from HM2VikingRNRight. Many corporations have become sociopathic, and this is accepted in the US as an inevitable aspect of our profit-based society. I think we can do better.It is the same Ben Stein from Ferris Bueller.....I agree with him about teaching "play nice" but the economy has been hollowed out to this state of joblessness very deliberately.
A friend of mine is an MBA. He openly acknowledges that he was taught "ideally your manufacturing is overseas." Our corporations have lost sight that they are corporate citizens. They want corporate personhood yet they fail the basic test of social obligation.
- Jul 28, '10 by SharonH, RNQuote from coffeelover10Unless you were caught stealing, walking out on a job at 18 is not a blemish on your record. That will not follow you, trust me. You don't even have to put that on your job application if you don't want to, it won't hurt you.Some of us who are in college and those who are getting ready to graduate went in straight after high school. And I can tell you that my job record from the time I was sixteen up until recently wasn't that great. Neither was my work ethic. And in times like these, finding a job is nigh impossible. My fault? Absolutely. That manager I walked out on when I had just turned eighteen? Wouldn't you know that it's a blemish on my record now. It's been a bad time for the younger crowd, in fact statistics say that we are usually the first to go. While I'm struggling to pay rent now, I think, "man, why won't anyone hire me? I'm willing to work, believe me!" But with my teenage record, who'd believe that? And I don't fault them either. There are a lot of people out of work the past few years who don't deserve to be, but most of those I know personally who can't find jobs, simply won't do the work that IS out there for them. It makes you think. What about that boss you may have rolled your eyes at once without thinking? Betya she remembers that, but not the fact that you'd picked up three shifts and worked the entire week short staffed. So what do out bosses think when we leave? What do they remember the most?
- Jul 29, '10 by Maria Lenore,RNIt is also unfortunate that new grads.... is financially handicap to undergo training programs and thats one of the reason why some can not find jobs .
- Jul 29, '10 by dnnc52sorry but i feel what said amaurusis: deserves repeating:
the people who are let go are oftentimes those who raised legitimate questions to which management had no answers, so they were deemed troublemakers or poor team players & eliminated. people like ben stein, whose sympathies often lie with management, attribute a level of wisdom & fairness to management which is on many occasions misplaced, if not completely bogus.
nurses who sound out against staffing, safety issues c/o too much pillow fluffing, and then share better ideas or have better solutions then the manager, will soon be on their way out the door. i am no longer with a wal-mart memorial hospital system (not real name). this system sucked in all the smaller local hospitals to where once you get them voided off you are blacked balled from the others so they can bite me. they us this" excellence in care” propaganda when in it’s real the appearance of excellence of care” that they are worried about. no offense to some nurses but some have no idea what nursing care is really like they just drink the corp. kool-aid and go on…that’s why i go and take my family elsewhere. i avoid any affiliation with these mega systems.
- Aug 3, '10 by want2banurse35Quote from NickiLaughsYes either that or people are finding it hard to find jobs that pay more or the same than the unemployment so they just rather stay on the unemployment. It's a sad situation all around. When I volunteer at the local shelter I see so many people who use to donate and are now coming in to get food and clothes.It wasn't aimed specifically at new nurses....so I wouldn't take offense. I will say I have met several people recently, who are content on their unemployment (not nurses), because they are making about the same amount of money. However, when the unemployment runs out I cannot imagine where they will be financially...as they haven't been spending the time job-hunting as they should.
I believe he's more talking about those people.
- Aug 5, '10 by ctmedOne of the best resort hotel managers in the business once talked to me about 'bad' times. No name mentioned, but this guy is over a very large name-brand resort in a tourist destination city.
He said he loved it.
It gives them an excuse to be rid of anyone they do not want and do not have to be 'dependent' on anyone because of bad applicants. Instead, he could use fear to make them work harder without question because he could pull from 1000 applications of people 10x more qualified who be 'lucky to have a job'. He can tell them what he what HE WANTS to pay and there is no negotiation, if they want to get a job.
Of course, he is not going to hire anyone who could take his job.
Employers love an employers market.
They want to keep it that way, too. They are the ones with the money. I think it will come to medical, particularly nursing that does not have huge organizations protecting it like doctors in the next few years.
It already has hit computers (IT), engineering, hospitality, even teaching! (Louisiana has brought in H1B teachers from out of country to work for less!)
I agree with Stein, but sometimes "getting along" means asking for no money and being dependent. The getting along is only a one way street.
- Feb 11, '11 by mmm333I'm desperately broke. At this point I am *actually* considering (re)enlisting as a medic It's not that I've given up on the RN job hunt, it's that I can't afford to live out here anymore, nor do I want to spend the next several years waiting tables or tutoring or doing anything else outside of healthcare. If I am going to barely make a living, I might as well establish something relevant on my resume. Out here I can't even get hired as a CNA due to my RN license.Last edit by mmm333 on Feb 11, '11
- Feb 11, '11 by dnnc52Sometimes I think that the Nursing shortage must have been perpetrated due to the fear of future shortage and to increase the workforce premature as a preparation. Also to increase college revenue in these desperate times. "kind of like the sky is falling" but it's just that bird relieving it's self while flying over your head. With what I have been reading and with the media it gives the public the impression that healthcare is in grave need of nurses and then the hospitals can lie to the public that they need to raise the cost to compensate and recruit more nurses. I have not seen much proof of this shortage unless it's because in this region they have plenty of nursing schools and plenty of warm bodies wearing scrubs. My own Mother while in the hospital always referred to any female in scrubs as a nurse and any male as a doctor. Now I know she was generalizing and that it was not right, but that's the way some folks look at things. Maybe the old idea of wearing your dignity (nursing cap) was a good idea, at least it was a good identification. Okay time to check out I'm seem to bet regressing. Who knows if ,where, when there is a nursing shortage. But if there is we as nurses sure know the "Why"......Last edit by dnnc52 on Feb 11, '11 : Reason: spelling
- Feb 11, '11 by rzyzzyWell, this is the situation I'm in currently (new nurse and haven't found a job yet), and while I'd agree 100% that some of the problem is "corporate" healthcare, I can't blame the problem entirely on that. The hospitals/nursing homes that I'm applying to are being squeezed mightily & simply can't afford to hire & train people right now. They have a choice in who they hire, and it's cheaper to hire experienced people, at least in the short-term.
In my previous experiences in the corporate world, I had much better luck long-term growing and developing my own talent - but many managers simply aren't able to see past this particular quarter, much less years in advance to the point where they "reap what they've sown".
The hospital that I did my LPN clinicals at was almost rabid in their distaste for LPNs. Both students and those that had been hired previously. I won't have the opportunity to show them my middle finger when I get my RN for a couple of years, but it will happen - nothing lasts forever, including economic downturns, nursing shortages, or a surplus of nurses.