My degree is not worth the debt! - page 21

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    Quite a few people have suggested joining the military to eliminate student loan debt. Unfortunately, the military isn't a sure thing.
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    Quote from Not_A_Hat_Person
    Quite a few people have suggested joining the military to eliminate student loan debt. Unfortunately, the military isn't a sure thing.
    That article is full of misinformation(or disinformation if you are cynical). "The average junior enlisted member, typically with just a high school degree, earns approximately $43,000 per year," is inaccurate, and refuted by many people in the comments.

    Further, this is primarily dealing with enlisted, if you have a bachelors(you must to be an Military RN if memory servers) then you enter as an officer.
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    I have no desire to enter the military. I'd rather be in debt.
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    "NP school was started because nurses already had the skills to do some of the general practice work needed for children. All these people needed was some extra knowledge and class time to hone and focus their already gained on-the-job skills.

    If your going to get a doctorate degree for these positions, then why not just go to medical school. I can understand if their was no previous gained skills or experience, but in all honest, it only defeats the purpose for why these schools and degrees were created for in the first place, and that is--for NP's mostly--because of a lack of medical students going into primary care services."

    I understand the demand for non-physician primary care providers comes from the increasing number of patients, that the AMA didn't predict when they decided to hold off on opening up more openings in their schools.

    However, I'm getting my NP doctorate because I want to be a primary care provider from a nursing perspective. I don't care for the medical model. Lucky me, I don't have to use it.

    Dian
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    Quote from eriksoln
    Funny, I think it's the opposite. I've talked about this in thread where people complain about having to sign the form that OK's potential employers looking up your credit score.

    I think high debt leads to lower moral, not compliance, with regards to an individual.
    *** I wasn't expressing my opinion. I have reason to know that, at least at the large health system were I worked, new grads with BSN are seen as less likely to rock the boat and more likely to tolerate questionable working condition and less likely to "vote with their feet". There was some data presented that backed up this view.
    I once sat in on a very high level meeting. I wasn't supposed to be there. I was supposed to present my data first thing in the morning then leave. On my way out I was invited to stay for the free food by the service line manager (not even unit managers where at this meeting) who I happen to be friends with. While I sat there, tucked away at a corner table I heard things that appaled me. Their views on new grads, BSN vs ADN being only one such thing.
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    Quote from carrie_c
    I have no desire to enter the military. I'd rather be in debt.
    *** This is understandable. I assume then that you are not one of those people who complains that is "not fair" when veterans have their nursing school paid for while they must barrow lots of money and be in debt. Like the example I gave previously in this discussion.
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    Quote from Not_A_Hat_Person
    Quite a few people have suggested joining the military to eliminate student loan debt. Unfortunately, the military isn't a sure thing.
    Well, one way the military isn't a sure thing is that you could deploy to a combat zone and lose your life. That possibility causes many people to pass on joining the military.
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    Very true about the military right now. Because of the draw down it is much more compative to get in. As far as being deployed and lossing your life that is slim. There has only been 3-5 nurses how have been killed between the 2 wars. Being deployed is not even a sure thing I know several O-5's & 6's who have not deployed. Which means they have all been in since 2001.
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    Quote from carrie_c
    I have no desire to enter the military. I'd rather be in debt.
    Which is a good choose for you. The military is not for everyone just like the differnent areas of nursing are not for everyone.
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    Deployment 'Not likely' isn't much comfort for some.

    If someone joins prior to becoming a nurse, their likelihood increases. Guess it doesn't seem as scary now that the war is over, but who knows when the powers that be will decide it is time to grab more land, power, oil, what have you.

    I am a vet that is extremely thankful that as least for the time being, loans aren't something that I have to entertain. For now, that is.


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