Medicare won't pay! - page 5

This is what happens when the government gets involved in health care. Comments?... Read More

  1. by   Medic04
    Quote from HeyJude
    Medic, you don't have to agree with Arwen, but you don't need to attack her, either.
    I am not attacking her, I am stating how it should be. If she is doing that and knows it then it is illegal what she is doing by hiding those breaking the law
  2. by   HeyJude
    Quote from Medic04
    I am not attacking her, I am stating how it should be. If she is doing that and knows it then it is illegal what she is doing by hiding those breaking the law
    There might just be more to her situation than you know, and methinks it might be wise to not be quite so harsh in future posts. You might not know the whole story.

    No one is saying you need to agree, just that discussing the ideas, rather than attacking people and their situations, is the point of these forums.

    This thread is getting way off-topic.
  3. by   Medic04
    Quote from HeyJude
    There might just be more to her situation than you know, and methinks it might be wise to not be quite so harsh in future posts. You might not know the whole story.

    No one is saying you need to agree, just that discussing the ideas, rather than attacking people and their situations, is the point of these forums.

    This thread is getting way off-topic.
    Sorry HeyJude, I do not need to know the "whole story" illegal IS illegal/undocumented either way is wrong. I may not agree but I also understand the law.

    Many illegal/undocumented are not insured, ie medicare/medicade and again taking from a system stretched thin. But hey Medicare can not pay for other but cover those costs
  4. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from EDNewbie
    I'm not really sure how this thread was split into "evil conservatives" vs ??
    Can we please have a rational discussion and voice our views without all the political name calling? Thank you.
    Wait just a darn minute here, it was not I that called him an evil conservative, he called HIMSELF one, I DISAGREED and said he was not an evil conservative, well at least not on that post.
  5. by   FranEMTnurse
    I'm affected by Medicare cuts too that have already begun. Some of the needed medical supplies are no longer paid for, and beginning in January, I pay a premium to AARP that covers my drugs, but I do have to pay a co-pay as well, and they said I was earning too much money on my disability, so they cut me, and took away the twenty dollar increase as well.

    We the taxpayers are paying for the big wig's wining and dining parties, as well as the drug companies who hand out tickets to broadway plays etc. I know this for a fact. We are the ones who get hurt; not the big wigs.
  6. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from Medic04
    I am a evil conserv.
    Ednewbie, here is the post in which Medic called himself an "evil conservative". Now I will do the evil monkey dance, lighten up. My apologies to everyone else, now back to the topic at hand.
  7. by   FranEMTnurse
    My former SIL is a Canadian and had to be sponsored before he could work in this country. Not only that, but he also has to keep working. And yes, it does take a long time to get a green card. He has been here since 1996, and still doesn't have it.

    There are pros and cons to both systems in health coverage though. The countries that provide universal healthcare have long waiting periods when going to an appointment because the medical personnel's income is government regulated, and is why drugs are cheaper in other countries.

    If a person needs a heart transplant, he might as well forget about it in Canada. That's why many have them done in the US.
  8. by   Medic04
    Quote from ingelein
    Ednewbie, here is the post in which Medic called himself an "evil conservative". Now I will do the evil monkey dance, lighten up. My apologies to everyone else, now back to the topic at hand.
    Oh wow !
    Yeah I did call myself that, and other feel that way. Dance on MONKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
  9. by   pickledpepperRN
    Quote from Franemtnurse
    I'm affected by Medicare cuts too that have already begun. Some of the needed medical supplies are no longer paid for, and beginning in January, I pay a premium to AARP that covers my drugs, but I do have to pay a co-pay as well, and they said I was earning too much money on my disability, so they cut me, and took away the twenty dollar increase as well.

    We the taxpayers are paying for the big wig's wining and dining parties, as well as the drug companies who hand out tickets to broadway plays etc. I know this for a fact. We are the ones who get hurt; not the big wigs.
    I think we need to think about who we vote into office.
    The lesser "evil" may actually inprove medicare (or at least stop trying to destroy it).
  10. by   psalm
    I'm wondering if the hospitals charge so much is because not only is the drug given after pharmacy does its thing, but the patient is then monitored inpatient (?) by nursing staff? How many days? How many labs are done? How many CTs or other tests to compare with baseline? Is this where the added cost is coming from?

    I am not a business major or a nurse manager, etc, but I would think that the round-the-clock care of someone on such a potent drug would come into play. Please update us on this.
  11. by   CocoaGirl
    What about the healthcare for the AMERICAN WORKING CLASS? Not the illegals, but the class that is falling into that huge crack. The working people who have health care coverage and they can't utilize it because of their HMO etc. denied them, or won't cover the cost of this or that? Many of the people on this forum are in this boat. One accident or illness could BANKRUPT us. Yes, I am a member of this group. I work hard, pay my taxes and pay my portion of my premium for my families healthcare coverage. But when that coverage is being denied or limited in the amount of payment to a provider that is a HUGE issue. When I pay for insurance whether it be through taxes for universal coverage or through my deduction from my paycheck, I want to have peace of mind that I can use that coverage and not have to worry about losing my house if something catastrophic would happen. The middle class working folks make too much money for any government assistance and are not wealthy enough to pay for healthcare out of our own pockets. Yes, it p****es me off when people welch off of the system by being too lazy to work or coming here illegally. Medicare is cutting back its programs and the pharmaceutical / insurance companies have the government in their pockets. Is there an easy answer? The WORKING AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS deserve better than we are getting when it comes to healthcare.
  12. by   lamazeteacher
    Quote from banditrn
    This is what happens when the government gets involved in health care. Comments?

    http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3975993

    Well, government involvement isn't the problem here, as much as ignorance of the pharmaceutical advisers - or do they want to save costs by causing cancer patients to die sooner?
  13. by   lamazeteacher
    Quote from JennyLR
    This is an outrage, and the number one reason that we don't want universal healthcare.
    Please detail why you think the chemo debate has something to do with "Universal" healthcare. This is clearly the ball being dropped by pharmaceutical advisers, who do the same thing with privatized health insurance........

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