Man brings 3 guns into ER - page 2

Cops found the first 2....then found the 3rd 2 hours later. Now, what I want to know many of us who work in hospitals IMMEDIATELY thought of specific people when they watched this video? I found my self thinking,... Read More

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    This hit close to home for me.

    A few years ago, we had a situation at an ER in my area that metal detectors couldn't even stop. A drunk man was brought into the ER by police after being pulled over during the early evening. He wound up stealing one of the cop's guns out of the holster and proceeded shooting around the ER, killing one officer, wounding another, wounding an ER employee and wounding himself. He then ran out of the ER and a manhunt ensued.

    This guy didn't bring a weapon into the ER. The police officer followed protocol by calling back-up for a suspected DUI. He wasn't combative towards officers on scene. But lo-and-behold, he was uncuffed when he used the bathroom in the ER and when he came out of the bathroom, he went for the officer's gun and he won out in the scuffle and the aforementioned was the result.

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    I can't believe they didn't search him after they found the first two guns. If nothing else, I'd be wondering if he had a knife or drugs on him.
    Last edit by Metody on Aug 18, '09 : Reason: because it'd only derail the thread, and I can't figure out how to delete.
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    Quote from navvet
    ghillbert "Where's the surprise? Would be smarter to quit letting Tom, Dick and Harry carry guns instead of locking down the ERs...

    If guns kill people, do pencils cause spelling errors? .02 cents
    Please don't put words in my mouth.

    But yes, if a crazy fellow didn't have easy access to a gun, he would have to work harder to kill people.
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    the punchline, for those that don't watch the video, is that the pt who was initially dropped of by his mom to have an "unexplained head" wound checkd out, was killed.
    In dealing w/ the 3rd gun, one shot was discharged by a police officer.
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    This happened in WA state, I work close to that hospital, its scary and that could be anyone out there.....
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    Quote from daisydoll
    I have always wondered why security isn't tighter in ER's. There should be metal detectors and inspection by a security officer before you are allowed in.
    I work at a Children's Hospital, and our ER has a metal detector that everyone passes through to get in, as well as armed Security at the door; always one and sometimes 2 officers. We treat juvenile prisoners. They are always hand-cuffed/ shackles on feet, and escorted by 2 police officers. Since we treat teenagers, we've had gang members come in with stab or gunshot wounds. We've had family members threaten to kill staff members who've worked on their loved ones if they die. We treat burn victims of all ages. Our hospital doesn't take any chances.
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    We have a metal detector manned by an off-duty officer, and security is supposed to "wand" any patients brought in by squad. Well that was fine and dandy but our security officers have become psych baby sitters... they are too busy doing "psych watch" on violent mentally ill patients who are trapped in the ER for days at time since there are no psych beds available in this city most of the time.

    Yeah, and why can't hospital security guards carry weapons? Sorry, but that crappy baton you have isn't going to do anything if someone comes in wielding a gun. Jeeze, you'd think they'd at least get a Taser... then again, if you actually saw 75% of our security guards, you'd think that the requirements for the job are 1) have a BMI of 30+, 2) be near or over average retirement age, 3) have a physical ailment which would impede you from stopping a bad guy... seriously.

    Oh, and we have found guns after the fact. One guy even got admitted before the floor nurses found a 9mm in his pants. This was before the metal detector, but still...
    Hoozdo and breaktime like this.
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    we have metal detectors in our ER.... but i often don't think our security is tight enough.

    we have alot of gang activity in our area and everytime a gunshot wound, stabbing or other crime comes in, the hospital goes on lockdown until the area has been cleared by the police.

    i have often thought of what i would do if there was a shooter up on the floor and where i would hide. scary times we live in.
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    Quote from ghillbert
    Please don't put words in my mouth.

    But yes, if a crazy fellow didn't have easy access to a gun, he would have to work harder to kill people.
    He may not have "easy access" but with theft and crime ineffectively punished it only take mins to find on on the street. Just like that pt you are caring for could probably get narcs faster than you going to Walgreens.

    Having been in a few ER's the vary from NO security to police presence. Metal detectors to walk right in and up to any location in the department. Dependent on the place could do just as much damage with baseball bat if not more vs a firearm.
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    I Think there is no more security ..
    where is police ..
    wat's happen ?!

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