Man brings 3 guns into ER

  1. 0 http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/cri....shooting.komo

    Cops found the first 2....then found the 3rd 2 hours later.

    Now, what I want to know is...how many of us who work in hospitals IMMEDIATELY thought of specific people when they watched this video? I found my self thinking, "Oh, yeah, that could by X, Y or Z on any given day...."
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  3. Visit  MissERN profile page
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    Yeah, I think what makes it so scary is that each of us know that that could be my ER, and I could be the one walking in to take care of that pt with the gun/knife.
  4. Visit  daisydoll profile page
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    I have always wondered why security isn't tighter in ER's. There should be metal detectors and inspection by a security officer before you are allowed in.
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  5. Visit  tewdles profile page
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    I was always thankful that we had a contract with the local federal prison and ALWAYS had armed guards in the ER, halls, cafeteria, smoking areas, etc. I saw that as a deterant for the local crazy who might think about acting some crap out in the absence of scary people with guns. I was always curious as to why hospital security had no guns, I mean we are talking about high stress environments where people die and their strung out "significant other" blows his cork. I have been threatened, spit at, bitten, hit, and otherwise abused, and I worked in the peds ICU and L & D, glad I didn't work in the ER!
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  6. Visit  Chaz C. profile page
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    Quote from daisydoll
    I have always wondered why security isn't tighter in ER's. There should be metal detectors and inspection by a security officer before you are allowed in.
    Agree with that. ER's should be treated like a locked down psych unit.
    I once worked in an ER so wide open a patients dog made his way from the bed of a pick up truck all the way to a patient's room. Big dog. Got help from the motion activated doors. Trotted right on in.
  7. Visit  brent_25 profile page
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    Yup - how many times have I thought the exact same thing. I work in a super busy Manhattan ER and we have 1 'security guard' at the door (not armed - and trust me - i've seen them in action...scary)...and that's all we have to stop someone from walking right into our department.

    Me and the other nurses I work with on nights have talked about where we would hide when someone comes in shooting. We think it's only a matter of time...
  8. Visit  nerdtonurse? profile page
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    I've actually been in our "kitchen" where we have the ice machine and thought, "Push come to shove, we could get in here and pull the first drawer out to block the door, then hide on the other side of the fridge..."
  9. Visit  Crocuta profile page
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    This hospital isn't very far from us, and we do regular business with them, so this situation hit a little close to home for my ED.

    The thing that just makes my head spin is the fact that the cops took two guns off this patient following a search - and later he produced a THIRD. Would someone explain to me why this patient wasn't stripped down with all his belongings outside the room after the first search?

    I'm sorry, you come into my ED with a gun - you're wearing your birthday suit and a hospital gown. I'll take my chances in front of a jury if I get sued for civil rights infringements.

    They could have just as easily been burying a nurse or a doctor.
  10. Visit  ghillbert profile page
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    Where's the surprise? Would be smarter to quit letting Tom, Dick and Harry carry guns instead of locking down the ERs...
  11. Visit  navvet profile page
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    ghillbert "Where's the surprise? Would be smarter to quit letting Tom, Dick and Harry carry guns instead of locking down the ERs...

    If guns kill people, do pencils cause spelling errors? .02 cents
  12. Visit  Koala33 profile page
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    This hit close to home for me.

    A few years ago, we had a situation at an ER in my area that metal detectors couldn't even stop. A drunk man was brought into the ER by police after being pulled over during the early evening. He wound up stealing one of the cop's guns out of the holster and proceeded shooting around the ER, killing one officer, wounding another, wounding an ER employee and wounding himself. He then ran out of the ER and a manhunt ensued.

    This guy didn't bring a weapon into the ER. The police officer followed protocol by calling back-up for a suspected DUI. He wasn't combative towards officers on scene. But lo-and-behold, he was uncuffed when he used the bathroom in the ER and when he came out of the bathroom, he went for the officer's gun and he won out in the scuffle and the aforementioned was the result.
  13. Visit  Metody profile page
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    I can't believe they didn't search him after they found the first two guns. If nothing else, I'd be wondering if he had a knife or drugs on him.
    Last edit by Metody on Aug 18, '09 : Reason: because it'd only derail the thread, and I can't figure out how to delete.
  14. Visit  ghillbert profile page
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    Quote from navvet
    ghillbert "Where's the surprise? Would be smarter to quit letting Tom, Dick and Harry carry guns instead of locking down the ERs...

    If guns kill people, do pencils cause spelling errors? .02 cents
    Please don't put words in my mouth.

    But yes, if a crazy fellow didn't have easy access to a gun, he would have to work harder to kill people.
    Mollypita likes this.

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