Man brings 3 guns into ER - page 3

Cops found the first 2....then found the 3rd 2 hours later. Now, what I want to know is...how many of us who work in hospitals IMMEDIATELY thought of specific people when they watched this video? ... Read More

  1. Visit  Vito Andolini profile page
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    Quote from tewdles
    I was always thankful that we had a contract with the local federal prison and ALWAYS had armed guards in the ER, halls, cafeteria, smoking areas, etc. I saw that as a deterant for the local crazy who might think about acting some crap out in the absence of scary people with guns. I was always curious as to why hospital security had no guns, I mean we are talking about high stress environments where people die and their strung out "significant other" blows his cork. I have been threatened, spit at, bitten, hit, and otherwise abused, and I worked in the peds ICU and L & D, glad I didn't work in the ER!
    Just wondering if you could share some of the reasons for all those negative actions and threats you have had. It sounds perfectly awful!
  2. Visit  Vito Andolini profile page
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    Quote from diane227
    I started working at Ben Taub Hospital in Houston in '81 or '82 and worked there off and on for years in the ED. We had a number of shootings in the ED while I was there. We finally got metal detectors at all the entrances and it was a big help to keep down the violence in the ED. We got a new CEO and he felt that it was bad for our image to have them so they got rid of them. Well, do you think it would be bad for our image if a patient got shot? or a staff member? ED's are open, dangerous places and you never know what is walking through the doors and what mood they are going to be in when they arrive. I think back on some of the stuff we pulled off people when we were undressing them and I can only say that I am glad that I never met that person on a dark street or in an alley somewhere. I had one guy standing at the end of the triage desk one night threatening to shoot me. He stick his hand inside his jacket to pull out his pistol but fortunately he had left it in his car. The cops took him away. I was not scared, I was mad. Man, that place really made me over cautious. I don't trust anyone.
    Maybe they should walk in cold to the CEO's office instead of into the ER.

    Glad you were ok, Diane.
  3. Visit  Vito Andolini profile page
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    This video sounds like very sloppy police work. We will never know what really happened, just as we will never know what transpired between Prof. Gates and Sgt. Crowley to cause Crowley to decide to arrest Gates. The most important information is always missing.
  4. Visit  nurse12b profile page
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    Quote from Vito Andolini
    This video sounds like very sloppy police work. We will never know what really happened, just as we will never know what transpired between Prof. Gates and Sgt. Crowley to cause Crowley to decide to arrest Gates. The most important information is always missing.

    Ehat does Prof. Gates and Sgt. Crowley have to do with anything in this post?
  5. Visit  lpn16yrs profile page
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    All ER's across the country should have metal detectors and armed security, as was previously mentioned, it is a highly stressful environment for staff as well as patients and their families. We have all seen how the death of a family member turns even the most docile individuals into someone the own family would not recognize. I dont agree with the previous comment I just read, but that is a debate that has and will last for ages.
  6. Visit  K98 profile page
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    Quote from daisydoll
    I have always wondered why security isn't tighter in ER's. There should be metal detectors and inspection by a security officer before you are allowed in.
    What good does a metal detector do? If someone is intent on doing harm, the person manning the metal detector will be the first one shot. Without warning. BANG. Now our shooter is free to enter the facility and expend the rest of his/her ammo. You guys watch too much TV.
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  7. Visit  cookielady,rn profile page
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    Quote from ghillbert
    Where's the surprise? Would be smarter to quit letting Tom, Dick and Harry carry guns instead of locking down the ERs...
    here in Chicago we law abiding citizens have no second amendment right. The thugs and gangstas however have lots of firearms they discharge all over the place. laws prohibit carrying guns into churches, hospitals but that's only for people who OBEY the law. Better to enforce the law with a lockdown (though no one will because of cost and "customer service") than leave people free will. Will take a major law suit to change lack of safety.
  8. Visit  rjflyn profile page
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    Quote from Sleepless In Canada
    Maybe a stupid question but why doesn't some of the staff carry concealed??
    Well- some probably do. Generally though most employers in general have policies against weapons. One typically would get swiftly fired if found with a firearm. Second for example the state I reside in it illegal to take a firearm into a hospital even if one were to have a permit to carry or not.

    That aside I know a number a years ago I worked nights. In the locker room at the beginning of the shift one could recognize the distinct sound of multiple firearms hitting locker shelves at this particular inner city hospital. People were that worried about the walk from the parking lot to the car and back each day.
  9. Visit  Vito Andolini profile page
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    Quote from nurse12b
    Ehat does Prof. Gates and Sgt. Crowley have to do with anything in this post?
    The common denominator is sloppy police work in both instances. NOt sure how to clarify better; sorry.
  10. Visit  katr131313 profile page
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    i say we nurses should wear bullet proof scrubs..
  11. Visit  RH-CentMO profile page
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    Quote from ghillbert
    Where's the surprise? Would be smarter to quit letting Tom, Dick and Harry carry guns instead of locking down the ERs...
    Just think about what kind of guy this was! Quit letting them carry guns? ...Why not quit letting them bring guns into the ER?
    I'm sure he wasn't carrying legal anyway. If the LEO's didn't find the 3rd gun on the guy during a patdown, then the lockdown is probably pointless too.
    Let the LEGAL citizens carry, and there might be someone there to prevent a mass-murder.
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