Jobs for New Grads - The Big Lie?

  1. 5 a recent article available in medscape is one of an increasing number of pieces that are finally painting a realistic picture of the nursing job market in the us.

    link here: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/755051?src=top10


    a popular website about the nursing profession claims, "there has never been a better time to be a nurse." "be" a nurse? perhaps, but "become" a nurse - that is less certain. in spite of continuing to rank among the best careers and best jobs in america, the nursing profession is struggling to welcome its newest members with open arms and paychecks.

    not too long ago, the threat of a growing nursing shortage prompted thousands of prospective students to choose nursing as a career, and nursing schools rapidly filled to capacity. nursing was frequently referred to as a "recession-proof" career,and the outlook for finding a job after graduation was rosy. . .
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  3. Visit  chuckster profile page

    About chuckster, ADN, BSN, RN, EMT-B

    Chuckster is a charter member of the cohort of "graduated and licensed but still unemployed" registered nurses.

    From 'Philadelphia area'; Joined Jun '10; Posts: 1,135; Likes: 999.

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  4. Visit  Meriwhen profile page
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    I swear it seems like they got at least half of their comments that they used in the article straight from this forum.
  5. Visit  AZMOMO2 profile page
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    LOL that's what I thought too. I KNOW I have seen those comments here over and over.
    lindarn, netglow, Meriwhen, and 2 others like this.
  6. Visit  cstatic profile page
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    I have to say that I was aware of the "shortage" versus real life from reading the boards here and was curious about what school would say once I started. I have to say they were honest if in a very positively spun manner. Our main instructor told us that right now the market is very hard because the economy is down, and many nurses who likely would have retired over the last 4 years are still working as well as many non working RN's doing their refresher course and re-entering the workforce. She said that as the economy improves over the next couple of years, and more nurses feel comfortable enough to retire that it "will likely" open up dramatically.
    lindarn and OMG3kids like this.
  7. Visit  elprup profile page
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    Cstatic - let us hope "it will likely open up".
    lindarn, netglow, tokidoki7, and 1 other like this.
  8. Visit  not.done.yet profile page
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    Given the world economy is in a shambles, not just the U.S. and that there is so much political strife right now, I honestly am not optimistic that things will open up any time soon.
    joanna73, Smurfette752, lindarn, and 6 others like this.
  9. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Quote from Meriwhen
    I swear it seems like they got at least half of their comments that they used in the article straight from this forum.
    Maybe the author is a member....
    joanna73 and netglow like this.
  10. Visit  newstudentrn profile page
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    I think that the article hit the nail on the head. It is a great time to BE a nurse, just not so hot of a time to BECOME a nurse. I was very lucky to have already been an employee at the large hospital in my area all throughout school doing a clerical job, so for me I just had to transfer to a new position. I will have to say that even that process was a bit nerve wracking. I had one job that I was really hoping to get in MICU but was passed up for a med-surg nurse with 2 years experience. Thankfully, I got a day shift job (YAY!) on a cardiac surgical step down unit with 4-1 patient ratio (along with a reputation as the "clean floor" because of the open heart patients that we cannot have any patients with fevers, wounds, etc.) I feel the issue is that it is so expensive for hospitals to invest in new grads with the costs of education, certifications, and preceptorships. It's much cheaper for them to hire a nurse with a year or two of experience who may or may not be a better "employee" than you are.
    Not_A_Hat_Person, lindarn, netglow, and 3 others like this.
  11. Visit  OMG3kids profile page
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    I've heard all this and more from friends and family members who are nurses. However, as no businesses here are hiring I figure I might as well finish my education and be ready to pounce when (if) things improve. I realize my situation is unique, since my husband has a stable career that supports our family, but I do hope to be actually employed in the future! Good fortune to us all!
  12. Visit  DoGoodThenGo profile page
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    For most any employer it is easier and often much less expensive to hire someone with experience in the exact or related position than train a newbie including recent graduates from school/college. There is also the fact a person with the required work history has a proven track record that can be verified. Totally new hires are a gamble on several fronts and in any event if separation happens a company is out time and money.

    It's not just nursing, more and more American companies offer little in the way of "on the job training" and or apprenticeships. They seek applicants whom are ready to go out of the box or will be up to speed with just a little seasoning.
    tokidoki7 and nursel56 like this.
  13. Visit  NurseLoveJoy88 profile page
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    I don't understand why some new grads choose not to work period just because they can't get a job as a nurse. With or without nursing job one still needs to work somewhere to pay bills.
  14. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    I'm just waiting for the day when lazy reporters who write for the popular press do some actual homework instead of being spoonfed their talking points from entrenched interests with a lot to lose if the student base dries up. I don't get really frustrated about stuff like that normally, but when you read the same quotes from the same people in every one of those I know they didn't bother to do anything other than a few perfunctory interviews with "experts" who all come from the same place.

    They obviously think assuming a shortage exists is a no-brainer because it was true for a long time. Now they display their lack of skill for all the world to see and look like a bunch of nincompoops.
    Last edit by nursel56 on Jan 15, '12
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  15. Visit  workingharder profile page
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    Quote from nursel56
    I'm just waiting for the day when lazy reporters who write for the popular press do some actual homework instead of being spoonfed their talking points from entrenched interests with a lot to lose if the student base dries up. I don't get really frustrated about stuff like that normally, but when you read the same quotes from the same people in every one of those I know they didn't bother to do anything other than a few perfunctory interviews with "experts" who all come from the same place.

    They obviously think assuming a shortage exists is a no-brainer because it was true for a long time. Now they display their lack of skill for all the world to see and look like a bunch of nincompoops.
    From your lips to God's ears.
    I sometimes think that the reporters who report on the economy are more interested in belonging to the "club" and hanging out with CEOs, bankers, economists, and Wall Street big wigs than finding and reporting facts. Do they do this because they are that naive/lazy or are they lining themselves up for a big money job on the "inside"?
    And you are so right, it does seem that all of the experts quoted have some vested interest in keeping a bubble inflated.
    That's interesting, nursing is the new "bubble".
    lindarn and nursel56 like this.


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