Jobs for New Grads - The Big Lie? - page 4
a recent article available in medscape is one of an increasing number of pieces that are finally painting a realistic picture of the nursing job market in the us. link here: note that... Read More
4Jan 18, '12 by nursel56 GuideQuote from Esme12Ha! Last night I was thinking - what we really need is a program that integrates the classroom experience with gradual introduction to increasing patient load so these expensive extended orientations could be shortened - busy nurses who don't want to be preceptors would save the new nurses from a negative experience and how about we split the difference and make it a 3 yr program and---- oh. Yeah. That sounds vaguely familiar.. . .I find it slightly amusing, however, that the single most thing lacking from the new grad is "clinical experience".......the one thing a diploma program supplied in abundance
See how far we've come?
2Jan 23, '12 by Jaimie.RNBrand new grad here, very little experience, very long time looking for work, only job I could get was in LTC with 45-50 patients ALONE on 12 hour nights for 23 an hour and only 7 shifts orientation. It sucks being a nurse today.
0Jan 23, '12 by lmhendersonrnIt sucks being a new grad, not being a nurse! (I'm sure that's what you meant)
2Jan 23, '12 by Jaimie.RNYeah, that is what I meant, except for that we're supposed to tell the patients we have time and can sit and talk and listen and do anything they need, but really, I have no time for them. Understaffing is unfair to everyone.
2Jan 24, '12 by CT6687Hi! I just graduated in December as a new grad, passed NCLEX and received two job offers. I got my foot in the door by starting to volunteer 8 months prior to graduating then applied to their student nurse externship position. The interviewer said that one of the reasons she hired me was that I was willing to put in time as an investment to the hospital and now they will invest in me. After working diligently in the externship two job offers have been put forth. Moral of the story: Invest in a hospital. No hospital or nursing program owes anyone anything. Make the commitment yourself and drive your own future. My first day of nursing school the instructor told us that there was a lie that there was a nursing shortage and I strategized and networked every day after.
1Jan 24, '12 by tigerbloodRN[font=times]Quote from lmhendersonrnyou only had 300 hours? i had like 850+ hours coming out of an accelerated bsn program...i agree with most of what you're saying however, it's not clinical experience as in nursing school clinical experience, i have over 300 hours of "student nurse" clinical experience in my program. it's one year of clinical experience as a licensed registered nurse.
i'll agree with you, we were fed a bunch of bs! my fellow students and i were told that the class had 100% job placement and tuition reimbursement, etc, etc. it sounded really nice, so i jumped! but i realized very quickly talking to other nurses on my clinical floors that these claims were not true and it wasn't going to be that easy to get in the hospital. i started networking and pulling every lead i could. i worked my butt off in clinical (i'm sure you did too) and my preceptorship before graduating, every time i walked on the floor it was an interview.
i'd agree, you might have to put some time in at a hospital volunteering, doing anything, call you mother's best friend's cousin's brother who works on a unit. (i'm serious, you have to jump through the hoops for a job now a days) i received an offer from the floor i precepted on and in an icu that i had a contact in...these were the only two that even bothered to call me back at all. everyone else snubbed me, i didn't even get a chance to speak with anyone most of the time.
i know its hard, but keep your head up, you'll find something that is a perfect fit for you!
0Jan 24, '12 by chuckster, ADN, BSN, RN, EMT-BQuote from tigerbloodrnthat's a lot of clinical hours - the equivalent of a full-time job for six months![font=times]
you only had 300 hours? i had like 850+ hours coming out of an accelerated bsn program...
i would think that level of clinical time is unusual though. my eve/weekend adn program had about 450 clinical hours (roughly 16 hrs per week).
0Jan 24, '12 by chuckster, ADN, BSN, RN, EMT-BQuote from tigerbloodRN<br><font color="#222222"><span style="font-family: Times;"><br>
You only had 300 hours? I had like 850+ hours coming out of an Accelerated BSN program...</span></font>
That's a lot of clinical hours - the equivalent of a full-time job for six months!<br>
I would think that level of clinical time is unusual though. My eve/weekend ADN program had only about 450 clinical hours (roughly 16 hrs per week).
0Jan 25, '12 by NICU<3RNMy program had 1,215 clinical hours. I still can't find a job.. though I do work PRN for someone.. I hardly get hours and am struggling financially.. I am too looking for a ft job and have applied to at least a thousand now..
Quote from chucksterThat's a lot of clinical hours - the equivalent of a full-time job for six months!
I would think that level of clinical time is unusual though. My eve/weekend ADN program had about 450 clinical hours (roughly 16 hrs per week).
0Jan 26, '12 by lmhendersonrnI should have been more clear, my last semester senior practicum was over 300 clinical hours...not my program.
0Jan 26, '12 by lmhendersonrnI should have been more clear, my last semester senior practicum course was over 300 clinical hours...not my program.
3Jan 26, '12 by mrluciano2uPlease read--dylan rattigan just had a 20 min segment on how there is a gigantic shortage of nurses--what a load of ********
4Feb 5, '12 by wantccuI am a nursing student (1/2 way there!) so I'm following this pretty closely. Does anyone else see the market opening up a little bit? There's certainly not the bonuses and recruitment of 5 years ago, but I'm seeing more new grad postings and less "I can't get a job" posts.
I do have to wonder - Those that are unable to find jobs - have they worked for it or did they just buy into the promises of nursing schools that they'll be swimming in job offers. I mean, applying to 1,000 jobs means nothing if you haven't done anything to get yourself in a good position.
I knew that I wanted to go to nursing school, so I got a job in a hospital. Learned everything that anyone was willing to teach me and spent 5 years on that floor. I knew without a doubt that I'd be hired onto my floor as a new grad but I also knew that it wasn't where I wanted to be as a nurse. So I took my 5 years of experience in my current position and got a job on the specific floor in the specific hospital that I wanted to work in. I'm learning a ton, taking every chance for more training and education that I can get my hands on. I take on more work than my job requires. I see this as a 2 year job interview.
I also did not burn any bridges at my old job. I maintain a good relationship and stay in touch with my old boss, so I know at the very least, I will be able to go back there when I graduate.
If others are not taking the time and making the effort to develop their careers and expecting things to be handed to them - I have little sympathy.